MABB v6.6.6

Even illud had some "good" death metal songs which are more memorable than the songs on this new album, im very disappointed, the production is horrible and so are the riffs and solos, trey has lost it.

NDMG

the ref saved your life

He did

totally. definitely the worst

imran

Inram

Come on NDMG. You're just flat out wrong there.

uh oh someone contradicted him, get ready

The Ultimate wrote:Come on NDMG. You're just flat out wrong there.

Nah its complete garbage

MAs worst albums in order:

1: Kingdom (sure its a pure DM album but the songs are garbage and so is the production)
2: Illud( a very crappy album though the mediocre death metal songs on this album are better than the DM songs on kingdom)
3: Heretic( Crappy production and generic songs besides the instrumentals by pete and curse the flesh)

I'm sorry but that's just nonsense. Complete nonsense. There is no way those albums should be ranked like that.

The Ultimate wrote:I'm sorry but that's just nonsense. Complete nonsense. There is no way those albums should be ranked like that.

It is how i see it, gateways was the last good MA album.

Well then get your eyesight checked because the last good MA album was Kingdoms!

Nope, gateways is 100 times better than that garbage album

You are a 100,000 times wrong about Kingdoms being a garbage album. It is a good album. Also Gateways is not 100 times better. Stop exaggerating.

Kingdom is a generic crap, uninspired garbage that i would never listen to again

It is totally not that, it a good return to form, a step in the right direction with several very good songs that can be listened to again and again.

You have very low standards then

Actually I have very high standards. Higher than yours definitely, for sure.

The Ultimate wrote:Actually I have very high standards. Higher than yours definitely, for sure.

Definitely not otherwise you wouldnt praise a crappy generic DM album like kingdom.

You are wrong 100%, Kingdoms is an enjoyable album, it isn't generic, perhaps you should get your ears and brain checked by a doctor.

The Ultimate wrote:You are wrong 100%, Kingdoms is an enjoyable album, it isn't generic, perhaps you should get your ears and brain checked by a doctor.

Its garbage, i never thought i would ever say this about MA but a song i made years ago is better than the entire kingdom album in terms of riffs, cathiness and aggression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fgTe_o3vfs

Well you must be high on drugs because your music does not even come close to the Kingdoms album in terms of riffs, vocals, song composition and aggression. It's a good thing you hung up the gloves because hardly anyone enjoyed the crap you composed. And that is a fact.

The Ultimate wrote:Well you must be high on drugs because your music does not even come close to the Kingdoms album in terms of riffs, vocals, song composition and aggression. It's a good thing you hung up the gloves because hardly anyone enjoyed the crap you composed. And that is a fact.

What you think doesnt matter as you have showed signs of low intelligence, i know what im talking about, that song is better than the entire kingdom album.

I have very high intelligence. I have used my intelligence to get good grades in school and a good job. I am also very well read and can give expert opinions on a variety of topics. The truth is the drugs you take have distorted your perception of reality and reduced your IQ. It is very unfortunate. Please admit it when you are wrong. It takes courage but you can do it I know it. The Kingdoms album is a good album.

The Ultimate wrote:I have very high intelligence. I have used my intelligence to get good grades in school and a good job. I am also very well read and can give expert opinions on a variety of topics. The truth is the drugs you take have distorted your perception of reality and reduced your IQ. It is very unfortunate. Please admit it when you are wrong. It takes courage but you can do it I know it. The Kingdoms album is a good album.

Being a good parrot in school doesnt mean that you have high intelligence, quite the contrary.

Of course it does! Success requires intelligence, concentration and focus and which if you had all that you would see that Kingdoms is a solid Morbid Angel album.

The Ultimate wrote:Of course it does! Success requires intelligence, concentration and focus and which if you had all that you would see that Kingdoms is a solid Morbid Angel album.

No it doesnt, you are a good parrot thats all, a lot of university students are incredibly stupid, kingdom is generic garbage, i wouldnt say it was if it wasnt.

Actually that's incorrect we are generally smarter because we have more skills and use more of our brain capacity to make the world a better place. Like I can tell for sure that I am better at math, reasoning and concentration than you. Kingdoms is a good album and maybe you are too unintelligent to realize. You seem to have lost the plot completely.

The Ultimate wrote:Actually that's incorrect we are generally smarter because we have more skills and use more of our brain capacity to make the world a better place. Like I can tell for sure that I am better at math, reasoning and concentration than you. Kingdoms is a good album and maybe you are too unintelligent to realize. You seem to have lost the plot completely.

You arent smart, you are just a good sheep, mindless parrot that repeats. Doesnt matter how many times you say that its a good album, its generic garbage.

I am smart, I have proof. I bet if I took an IQ test I would score much higher than you. This is why you should just accept what I am saying. It is OK to be wrong, you should admit it. Kingdoms is a good album. Your drug use has mislead you into a wrong opinion on Kingdoms.

I've had the chance to listen to this album quite a bit now and It's surprised me how solid it actually is, although not quite the world beaterTrey said it would be. That familiar heavy groove pops up a lot which gives it that addictive quality, even in the fast songs which is why i'm a fan of this band from the start. Imagine if this had been released in 2003 instead of Heretic it would have been pretty much perfect. The ultimate blend of Formulas and Gateways, with some Domination thrown in there too. Not that i dislike heretic at all, but in hindsight it just seems to fit a little better.

People say it's generic which while it might sound it on the surface, is actually not for MA. Trey has seemed to experiement with song ideas within a death metal framework this time instead of choosing totally different genre/iunstruments like Illud. Songs such as D.E.A.D and Architect where he's channeling Portal/Gorguts and Behemoth for the latter. These are songs you wouldn't necessarily think are MA unless you were told. Then on the other hand you've got the Righteous voice (maybe album highlight for me) which is MA to a tee with it's Opening of the gates esque intro and bouncy pummeling groove when it blasts away. Pillars crumbling which is another standout track has the outro part that's completely unexpected and another moment where accusations of MA playing it safe don't seem to hold up.The complaints about the production are justified but with some minor adjustments through an equalizer can bring out the riffs more. I definitely don't think it's the worst production they've had though.

If i was to make a list from best to worst it would look something like this:

Covenant
Altars
Gateways
Formulas
Kingdoms
Blessed
Heretic
Domination
Illud

So yeah I hold Kingdoms somewhere around the middle. Even though at the moment it feels like it should be higher because the album is fresh and exciting to listen to I went with a conservative middle spot in the event that time wears off the appeal.

Wow NDMG, there really is no way to argue your objective taste in music. You must right.

iamgoat wrote:Wow NDMG, there really is no way to argue your objective taste in music. You must right.

I know what you mean but i tell it like it is from an objective view, for example if the guitars are burried in the mix then they ARE burried under the mix and its not my subjective opinion.

GMDN wrote:

iamgoat wrote:Wow NDMG, there really is no way to argue your objective taste in music. You must right.

I know what you mean but i tell it like it is from an objective view, for example if the guitars are burried in the mix then they ARE burried under the mix and its not my subjective opinion.

That's true but that doesn't make it "the worst MA album." That's just an opinion.

Phantoon wrote:I've had the chance to listen to this album quite a bit now and It's surprised me how solid it actually is, although not quite the world beaterTrey said it would be. That familiar heavy groove pops up a lot which gives it that addictive quality, even in the fast songs which is why i'm a fan of this band from the start. Imagine if this had been released in 2003 instead of Heretic it would have been pretty much perfect. The ultimate blend of Formulas and Gateways, with some Domination thrown in there too. Not that i dislike heretic at all, but in hindsight it just seems to fit a little better.

People say it's generic which while it might sound it on the surface, is actually not for MA. Trey has seemed to experiement with song ideas within a death metal framework this time instead of choosing totally different genre/iunstruments like Illud. Songs such as D.E.A.D and Architect where he's channeling Portal/Gorguts and Behemoth for the latter. These are songs you wouldn't necessarily think are MA unless you were told. Then on the other hand you've got the Righteous voice (maybe album highlight for me) which is MA to a tee with it's Opening of the gates esque intro and bouncy pummeling groove when it blasts away. Pillars crumbling which is another standout track has the outro part that's completely unexpected and another moment where accusations of MA playing it safe don't seem to hold up.The complaints about the production are justified but with some minor adjustments through an equalizer can bring out the riffs more. I definitely don't think it's the worst production they've had though.

If i was to make a list from best to worst it would look something like this:

Covenant
Altars
Gateways
Formulas
Kingdoms
Blessed
Heretic
Domination
Illud

So yeah I hold Kingdoms somewhere around the middle. Even though at the moment it feels like it should be higher because the album is fresh and exciting to listen to I went with a conservative middle spot in the event that time wears off the appeal.

this is a thorough, thoughtful, and balanced consideration of the album it will be ignored and mocked in equal measure

harpsichord dynamo wrote:

Phantoon wrote:I've had the chance to listen to this album quite a bit now and It's surprised me how solid it actually is, although not quite the world beaterTrey said it would be. That familiar heavy groove pops up a lot which gives it that addictive quality, even in the fast songs which is why i'm a fan of this band from the start. Imagine if this had been released in 2003 instead of Heretic it would have been pretty much perfect. The ultimate blend of Formulas and Gateways, with some Domination thrown in there too. Not that i dislike heretic at all, but in hindsight it just seems to fit a little better.

People say it's generic which while it might sound it on the surface, is actually not for MA. Trey has seemed to experiement with song ideas within a death metal framework this time instead of choosing totally different genre/iunstruments like Illud. Songs such as D.E.A.D and Architect where he's channeling Portal/Gorguts and Behemoth for the latter. These are songs you wouldn't necessarily think are MA unless you were told. Then on the other hand you've got the Righteous voice (maybe album highlight for me) which is MA to a tee with it's Opening of the gates esque intro and bouncy pummeling groove when it blasts away. Pillars crumbling which is another standout track has the outro part that's completely unexpected and another moment where accusations of MA playing it safe don't seem to hold up.The complaints about the production are justified but with some minor adjustments through an equalizer can bring out the riffs more. I definitely don't think it's the worst production they've had though.

If i was to make a list from best to worst it would look something like this:

Covenant
Altars
Gateways
Formulas
Kingdoms
Blessed
Heretic
Domination
Illud

So yeah I hold Kingdoms somewhere around the middle. Even though at the moment it feels like it should be higher because the album is fresh and exciting to listen to I went with a conservative middle spot in the event that time wears off the appeal.

this is a thorough, thoughtful, and balanced consideration of the album it will be ignored and mocked in equal measure

You are right about that, kingdom being better than domination and blessed......

iamgoat wrote:

GMDN wrote:

iamgoat wrote:Wow NDMG, there really is no way to argue your objective taste in music. You must right.

I know what you mean but i tell it like it is from an objective view, for example if the guitars are burried in the mix then they ARE burried under the mix and its not my subjective opinion.

That's true but that doesn't make it "the worst MA album." That's just an opinion.

An opinion the majority agrees with, look at the likes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p04DOohS89g

But still an opinion. Not fact, as you like to state it.

Having fierce discussions about taste is pointless. The only thing you and inram were saying to each other was "you're wrong - no, you're wrong!" Like a bunch of kids fighting over which superhero is better.

Anyway, I don't like the album because of the songwriting. I think Steve is brilliant but there are too many songs that I get bored with easily.

That was inram? why is he changing nick all the time? and yeah the songwriting sucks.

he changes nick

GMDN wrote:That was inram? why is he changing nick all the time? and yeah the songwriting sucks.

for a purely logical superhuman blah blah you are about as observant as a bag of severed dicks leaking out an evidence locker

harpsichord dynamo wrote:

GMDN wrote:That was inram? why is he changing nick all the time? and yeah the songwriting sucks.

for a purely logical superhuman blah blah you are about as observant as a bag of severed dicks leaking out an evidence locker

Dont take your frustration out on me cause you are an idiot.

but you are frustratingly boring

harpsichord dynamo wrote:but you are frustratingly boring

And you think i care about what you think?

[/quote]An opinion the majority agrees with, look at the likes[/quote]
That's actually a fairly substantial dislike bar and reading the comments a very large portion disagree with him. People thumb shit up to keep up appearences, and most likely they're not even MA fans there.