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Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 05:32
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
:Santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 06:40
by scunt.
Last year was the deadliest in history here in tulsa and we've already had two today.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 06:45
by Verbal
do you really think america wouldnt be safer if it had stricter gun laws?

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 08:00
by scunt.
Stricter gun laws won't help honestly man. Look at mexico, nigh impossible for the average citizen to own firearms and look at how much gun violence there. Same as honduras, and venezuela, and brazil. Unless there was a sweeping confiscation effort, which will never happen, you're not gonna prevent gun violence here. And 90% of it is gang on gang shootings anyways.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 08:46
by User
the U.S. now employs as many private security guards as high school teachers — over one million of them, or nearly double their number in 1980.
 
that’s just a small fraction of “guard labor” - in addition to private security guards, this includes vice squad officers, members of the armed forces, prison and court officials, civilian employees of the military, and those producing weapons: a total of 5.2 million workers in 2011, a far larger number than teachers at all levels.
 
what is happening in America today is both unprecedented in history, and virtually unique among Western democratic nations. the share of its labor force devoted to guard labor has risen fivefold since 1890 — a year when, in case you were wondering, the homicide rate was much higher than today
 
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/15/one-nation-under-guard/?_r=0

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 08:53
by scunt.
I just read through that and I don't see the correlation to murder rate. A majority of those who are in guard positions are unarmed yokels who work the door or lobby of office buildings, or do unarmed patrols through neighborhoods or apartment complexes.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:04
by User
the point is not about murder, it's about income inequality and social policy, although i know the murder rate is still scary
 
i.e. a nation whose policies result in substantial inequalities may end up spending more on guns and getting less butter as a result
 
i.e. U.S. spends money on guarding stuff rather than making stuff  ... there’s a large population standing around in blue blazers rather than engaged in more productive activities
 
also place your bets my guess for 2017 murder rate in baltimore is 340

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:06
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
I don't stand at work :shake::::::::::::

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:08
by scunt.
I reckon the official city of the chicago cubs will crack 900 homocides this year

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:09
by scunt.
Also cook county has some of the most restrictive gun laws on record.


An armed society is a polite society :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:16
by scunt.
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=30b_1481434060


Here's a video from December in Chiraq recorded by actual CPD officers just sitting and listening to gun battles taking place in chitown.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:17
by scunt.
I'd go as far to say the official city of the chicago cubs is the prime example as to why restrictive gun laws dont work.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:39
by User
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there are so many reasons why this is the case but U.S. gun laws are the largest contributor
 
your example of the official city of the chicago cubs is ridiculous as obviously gun restrictions need to be national policy, it's never going to work on a regional/local scale with the amount of mobility inherent in u.s. society

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:54
by scunt.
Gun restrictions eh? So are you saying I shouldn't be able to own a semi automatic firearm capable of holding more than 10 rounds? What do you mean by restrictions? Funny thing, plenty of firearms are already restricted thanks to the ATF, and the majority of crimes are committed with handguns, not rifles or shotguns.


Thank god it's called the bill of rights and not the bill of needs.



The reason we have a skewed murder rate is because we have a massively higher percentage of population than ALL of those other "first world countries." Don't move the goal posts, post some correlation between population per capita vs gun crime per capita.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:56
by scunt.
Also, 19.4 black. There is your answer right there. Remove the black race out of gun crime statistics and then tell me where we fall on the gun murder scale.


Oh wait shit that's fucking racist, my bad

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 10:12
by jawn galliano
demanding that someone post a different statistic instead of substantively addressing the one being argued sure sounds like goalpost movery to me. you should at least come up with a coherent explanation as to why direct comparisons can't be made using the incidence per N people metric (which allows for direct comparisons between countries with vastly different total populations and/or occurrences).
 
also, there is no such thing as population per capita.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 10:16
by happiness and harmony
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="scunt." data-cid="610186" data-time="1483327590">
Also, 19.4 black. There is your answer right there. Remove the black race out of gun crime statistics and then tell me where we fall on the gun murder scale.


Oh wait shit that's fucking racist, my bad</blockquote>


you can't remove the statistic without removing the people


so, yes, that is racist, as well as naive

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 10:26
by scunt.
How is 13% of the population committing 52 % of all homocides racist? Are facts that dont suit your guilded liberal pov now racist?

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 10:28
by scunt.
By all means, let me know what the firesrm crime rate would be without that one "factor" jacking it up over and above. Like I said, facts are racist I guess.


I guess that makes me a dirty gun toting racist. Pity that I don't give a shit

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 11:17
by happiness and harmony
of course you do :gaylol: it's etched into your being


the statistic isn't racist; it's a number. your attitude suggests that the issue isn't how to address the reasons for the high murder rate among blacks; it's to simply remove the people and pretend like they aren't there

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 11:36
by scunt.
Oy vey its like anudda holocaust.


I said remove them from the statistic, not the genepool. No i clearly asked you to provide me what the crime rate would be. And youre right, the statistic isnt racist, it's just facts. :)

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 12:03
by happiness and harmony
and if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass a-hoppin :hard-on bearer:


but it doesn't. and you can't remove the numbers you like best from the complete statistic and hold those up instead. it's foolish

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 20:34
by User
i regret my post

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 21:31
by happiness and harmony
cover your tracks by deleting mabb

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 21:39
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
2 :Santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 21:42
by Verbal
[quote="scunt."]
Gun restrictions eh? So are you saying I shouldn't be able to own a semi automatic firearm capable of holding more than 10 rounds? What do you mean by restrictions? Funny thing, plenty of firearms are already restricted thanks to the ATF, and the majority of crimes are committed with handguns, not rifles or shotguns.


Thank god it's called the bill of rights and not the bill of needs.



The reason we have a skewed murder rate is because we have a massively higher percentage of population than ALL of those other "first world countries." Don't move the goal posts, post some correlation between population per capita vs gun crime per capita.
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um, but all those graphs that luke posted were all per some unit population
 
 
"we have a massively higher percentage of population than ALL of those other "first world countries."" - have no idea what you mean by that

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 21:56
by jawn galliano
america's population expressed in percentage terms is 100. i highly doubt other countries can say the same

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 22:33
by Verbal
you sound like a t.rump supporter

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 23:36
by jawn galliano
if i were a bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea supporter i'd accuse your country of being a salty liberal cuck because it's population per capita is less
 
owing to a lack of guns, naturally

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 03 Jan 2017, 04:32
by Verbal
ive been doing some reading and it turns out that the population per capita is staggeringly constant across countries
 
thanks obama

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 04 Jan 2017, 03:42
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
3 :Santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 06 Jan 2017, 06:44
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
5 :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 07 Jan 2017, 11:34
by Haunty
i finally finished watching the wire through season 4 and i am honestly terrified of baltimore. my bet for the year is 350-370.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 07 Jan 2017, 11:41
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
In 2015 it hit 344 but that was in the midst of the Freddie gray stuff. Last year was 318 and the decade before it always fell somewhere in the mid 200s :santa:. Which still a bat shit crazy number for a city of just over half a million people.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 09 Jan 2017, 02:19
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
6 :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 09 Jan 2017, 03:09
by droidspawn
hope it was that punk marlo

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 21:24
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
7 :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 21:25
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
jorsh wrote:hope it was that punk marlo
Marlo was too street to be Levy's next stringer bell. He for sure would have lost his shit and taken someone out.

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 19:59
by User
slow start baltimore, got any holidays coming up

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 21:34
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
Mlk and the inauguration

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 01:27
by happiness and harmony
the suspense is terrible

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 01:53
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
9 :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 02:59
by happiness and harmony
13 for the official city of the chicago cubs so far, well off the 2016 pace

keep it up, i guess

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 06:16
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
11 :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 15:10
by droidspawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzWS3fF9a0Q

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 05:17
by User
you just reminded me i should be listening to music

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 05:19
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
13 :santa:

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 06:00
by User
go go baltimore go

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 23:29
by happiness and harmony
baltimore has chicagoan aspirations

Re: Baltimore murder rate 2017 edition

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 05:07
by User
nick pines longingly from his gay man&#39;s telescope