my friends and i started playing pittsburgh showdown again

[Hitoshura]

:::::
 
as long as i wake up before noon and am not savagely hung over, i believe i will go and play in the sunday legacy tournament tomorrow

[Hitoshura]

huge spoiler leak for OGW today: https://imgur.com/a/gke40?
 
sphinx of the final word

[Hitoshura]

finally gonna get a chance to hit up the local legacy tournament again on sunday. my buddy is going too, so i'll have him on 12-post to help clear the miracles players out. fucking goddamned miracles players. should be my last outing with my 'budget' shockland reanimator, first round of OG duals is officially incoming
 
sheeeit, stormy circa 30 may 2014 did not see this level of madness coming

[Nick]

I can't believe this thread is 10 pages

[Hitoshura]

nine of those pages are back and forth between you and i

[Nick]

pittsburgh showdown

[morbid board eli]

i can believe it

[Hitoshura]

once i finish my next round of land acquisitions, my deck should look like
 
4x hapless researcher
3x griselbrand
1x iona, shield of emeria
1x elesh norn, grand cenobite
1x archetype of endurance
1x tidespout tyrant
 
4x brainstorm
4x force of will
4x entomb
4x izzet charm
2x misdirection
 
4x careful study
4x exhume
4x reanimate
2x animate dead
 
4x polluted delta
2x verdant catacombs
2x underground sea
2x badlands
2x swamp
1x tropical island
1x bayou
1x misty rainforest
1x bloodstained mire
1x island
 
sideboard
 
some combination of discard spells, abrupt decays, pithing needles, echoing truths, some flex creatures and niche removal as necessary like darkblast, massacre & etc.
 
next up: legacy storm combo, or tin fins. hopefully wizards continues on being its usual retarded self w/r/t modern and bans a key piece of the modern port of tin fins so goryo's vengeance drops back down to $10.

[Nick]

omg you should have 24 to 26 lands

[Hitoshura]

when your curve tops at 2, 17 lands is a very conservative build! my current list is a riskier variant tuned for a fast combo that runs 8 fetches, 6 targets, and 3 lotus petals

[Nick]

But the trolls who inhabit pittsburgh showdown forums won't recognize it as a legit build because not enough lands!

[Hitoshura]

well then they need to take a bath and get their asses out of janky-ass standard and modern town.they need to learn about the game where things like unconditional counterspells, not-shitty manabases, and actual combo decks exist
 

[Nick]

STANDARD EDH OR GTFO

[morbid board eli]

[quote="roustabout"]
i can believe it
[/quote]

[Hitoshura]

standard and edh are the formats of choice for reddit posters. those dudes probably consider modern to be a serious competitive setting. those very same dudes that were just recently, honestly and vigorously calling for bans to cripple a "combo" deck in modern that, in a format defined almost entirely by sideboarding, only won its top-table matches in game fucking THREE, and even then, couldn't go off until turn fucking eight. because that's too consistent and oppressive.
 
none of this is surprising, of course. reddit is the contemporary western temple of mediocrity. if it isn't a linear gameplan of slamming the same five dumb creatures into each other for 15 tournament rounds, it's 'broken' and needs to be banned.

[Abzu]

I think MTG may be a bit complex for MiniAbzu's 8 yr old ADHD mind. In a couple years maybe. He and I have been playing Pokemon cards though with a Trainer's Deck he got in his stocking.

[morbid board eli]

it is not called mtg it is called pittsburgh showdown

[Abzu]

ohsnap

[Hitoshura]

summer bloom and splinter twin banned in modern
 
what a fucking joke, i don't understand how anyone could buy into a format that actively bans decks because they're good. not even too good, or overpowered, or objectively unbeatable. just, if a deck is good and wins games, it gets banned.

[Nick]

Because fat pittsburgh showdown dollars

[Abzu]

[quote="Hitoshura"]
summer bloom and splinter twin banned in modern
 
what a fucking joke, i don't understand how anyone could buy into a format that actively bans decks because they're good. not even too good, or overpowered, or objectively unbeatable. just, if a deck is good and wins games, it gets banned.
[/quote]
That does seem absurdly stupid.

[Hitoshura]

they killed the most popular deck in the entire format. the only consolation for twin players is that half the value in the ~$1200 competitive build is tied up in multi-format all stars that will survive the ban.
 
last year it was birthing pod, this year it was splinter twin, rest assured, next year, either urzatron or affinity decks will get their legs chopped off. probably tron, but it will depend on how the format shakes out over the next few months.

[morbid board eli]

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[Josh]

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[Hitoshura]

good news: my first real-deal competitive legacy deck is finally complete and fully-accessorized
 
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list is pretty much what i'd settled on above, except the manabase. only changes there are +1 underground sea, +1 tropical island, -1 bayou, -1 swamp. i may eventually cut the basic island and replace it with a fourth u.sea, but i'm going to hold out for a killer deal before i pull the trigger on finishing that playset.
 
bad news: christopher rush, who painted some of the most iconic cards and designed the mana symbols and logo, passed away today. :::::::::::::::

[Nick]

2016 is an asshole

[Hitoshura]

 

 
eternal masters, coming this spring. with wasteland at rare, hopefully it drives down the price on the tempest printing, original art/frame >>>>>>>>> that version.
 
don't imagine force will be affected all that much, it's a chase card at mythic that everyone who plays it runs 4 of. mostly i'm interested to see what other expensive staples make it in, they're not touching anything on the reserved list so most of the really expensive parts of legacy/vintage won't be affected. i guess show and tell and sneak attack are possible candidates. oh and karakas too, that was an uncommon that currently goes for $100+.

[Nick]

I feel pretty much the same way about them there masters sets. Are they even legal to use in tournaments?

[Hitoshura]

yeah, they're all black bordered cards with the standard card back, so legal for use in any constructed format that the original printings are legal in. supposedly designed with the draft format in mind, but that's just an excuse to fill a set with chaff like comet storm at mythic.
 
the upside compared to MMA2015 is there's no protour/grand prix for this set, so maybe they'll actually print a decent number of desirable cards.
 
with the exchange rates being so advantageous, i might send my buddy in japan some cash to pick me up a box. could probably just sit on it and sell it in a couple years for a huge profit. the price multiplier on japanese foils is ridiculous, i'm sure that will be the case for something like force of will that's never had a non-english foil printing.

[Nick]

Oh dude I can't tell you how many times I've seen stores sit on their entire supply for a year before they sell a single one.

[morbid board eli]

2016 is pretty good so far

[sade]

Is this game basically pay to win? I like the idea of this kind of thing (deck builders?), but without spending money constantly - what are the options? Currently getting into more serious tabletop games.

[Hitoshura]

it really depends on how you want to play to be honest, there are a million fun decks you can build for very little. one of my favorite decks is a green/white infinite combo deck that cost less than $10 to put together. if you're playing in a casual environment there's no real need to go nuts spending hundreds of dollars.
 
if you want to play in sanctioned tournaments for constructed formats that can get pretty expensive if you want a deck that has a good shot at being competitive, but every format has budget options that can still win games.

[Nick]

Pauper decks can be made for even less

[Hitoshura]

also, getcha berserk & show and tell reprints in the new conspiracy set. unlimited printing run so them hoes should get pretty cheap like

[morbid board eli]

poor forgotten pittsburgh showdown thread

[Hitoshura]

i haven't played since probably june of last year my fellating lover no longer works weekends though and with football season over we're planning to start up going to the sunday tournaments again

[Nick]

That's probably about when I last played too. Board games have taken over our monthly hangouts.

[Hitoshura]

this week has been spoiler season for the new masters set, which is back on modern. the number of money cards they're reprinting here is fucking insane

-full cycle of zendikar/enemy fetchlands
-snapcaster mage
-blood moon
-liliana of the veil
-abrupt decay
-goblin guide
-damnation
-voice of resurgence

and lots of A+ stuff in uncommon like path to exile, inquisition of kozilek, might of old krosa, & lingering souls

i don't think i'll go back to buying packs but this is the first set that's tempted me in a very long time. i reckon once it's out and prices fully tank, i'll grab a full set of arid mesa and goblin guides so i can finish building legacy burn

[Nick]

I haven't even looked at the last few sets

[Hitoshura]

yeah you're not missing anything with the last few, there's really not much exciting there. i've been meaning to snar a set of collective brutality but that's the only new card i've seen worth a look



i guess they did a pretty awful job with the current standard environment, they banned a few cards when the most recent set came out because there was only one viable deck

[Nick]

I bought a few singles and packs from khans (might have been the one after) but that's been it for what's gotta be close to 2 years now.

[Hitoshura]

holy shit, just saw on the FB high end group someone has a full set of alpha for sale, everything is PSA-graded at 10/mint condition. 45,000 EUR asking price for the lotus

[Nick]

What's a basic land going for

[Hitoshura]

looks like they didn't bother with grading the basics, nothing listed for those last i saw alpha/beta basics usually run $3-6 a piece for loose copies though

[Nick]

I used to have a bunch of alpha/beta/unlimited lands. I think I got a little over a hundred out of them.

[morbid board eli]

did you win?

[Hitoshura]

my fellating lover and i have started practicing again, we've played a few sets over the last week

tonight ended poorly

UBRG reanimator vs GW 12-post, best of 3 sets. went down to the third set, but i lost on game 3 with my fellating lover at 1 facing down an unopposed archetype of endurance. on my last relevant turn i drew a second reanimation combo, which could've won me the game but i boarded out elesh norn in favor of grave titan, as legendaries are huge liabilities in a matchup with karakas and a million land tutors. consequently i held up the combo to avoid overextending, and then he topdecked a forest into a primeval titan 2 glimmerposts bought an extra turn, which snowballed into an insurmountable advantage

[morbid board eli]

did you win?

[Hitoshura]

April 24, 2017 Banned and Restricted Announcement

Announcement Date: April 24, 2017

Standard:

No changes

Modern:

No changes

Legacy:

Sensei's Divining Top is banned.

fucking :::::::

i would've been happy with a terminus ban so they at least had to fall back on supreme verdict, but eliminating the miracles archetype altogether is just fine by me

miracles :::::::