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Re: Souls Games

Posted: 16 Dec 2016, 10:34
by diabolik
DLC should be a lot more difficult than the standard game. Throne of Want is pretty fucked up place, but it is doable, even I did it.
 
Making my way through DS3 and have to say this is a lot more difficult than DS2. It was pretty OK until I got to Borean Valley, then the suffering began. Devourer of Gods took some serious practice to get down.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 07:15
by jawn galliano
yeah, the valley is fucking fruital first time through. just getting to an interior bonfire felt like a major accomplishment. absolutely loved both of the boss encounters, especially devourer which was fittingly challenging for taking place in the ornstein/smough arena. what weapons have you been using?

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:12
by zim
[quote="diabolik"]
DLC should be a lot more difficult than the standard game. Throne of Want is pretty fucked up place, but it is doable, even I did it.
 
Making my way through DS3 and have to say this is a lot more difficult than DS2. It was pretty OK until I got to Borean Valley, then the suffering began. Devourer of Gods took some serious practice to get down.
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that's interesting, i've seen a few people say ds3 was easier. i'm actually going to play ds1 before i move on to ds3/

 

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:57
by jawn galliano
in comparing the relative challenge between 2/3, i could see an argument for stages in DS2 being tougher in some instances, but there's no comparing the bosses. i one-shotted the majority in DS2, very few in DS3.
 
the original dark souls is fantastic and i reckon you will enjoy the hell out of it, still the best of the three IMO (not a knock on DS3 at all though, it's very close behind). bonfires are much rarer compared to what you're accustomed to though, and you don't get the option to teleport between them until fairly late in the game.
 
if you're playing on PC just make sure to get the dsfix mod. the stock installation is absolutely dreadful.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 10:14
by diabolik
[quote="Hitoshura"]
yeah, the valley is fucking fruital first time through. just getting to an interior bonfire felt like a major accomplishment. absolutely loved both of the boss encounters, especially devourer which was fittingly challenging for taking place in the ornstein/smough arena. what weapons have you been using?
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I'm a little bit lost with weapons in DS3, I've been using Irithyll Straight Sword, Hollowslayer Greatsword and Profaned Greatsword. I think they all are +2 or +3.
Will take a awhile before I can use Fume Ultra Greatsword.
 
Any suggestions for good STR/DEX hammering?

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 20 Dec 2016, 01:13
by jawn galliano
if you're going for a straight STR/DEX build, you'll want to have something with a quality infusion. they nerfed the effectiveness of quality builds slightly a while back, but they're still really solid in PVE -- the go-to weapon was usually an upgraded black sword, which if you don't have one already, drops off the dudes outside abyss watchers' arena.
 
for greatswords i've mostly just been using the wolf knight's greatsword, which you'll get by trading the abyss watcher's soul. it's a slightly higher attack rating compared to the hollowslayer and gets a nice damage bonus against a few of the later bosses as well. the FP skills are a lot more useful on the WK sword as well IMO, although i rarely find myself using those on any weapon.
 
titanite eventually becomes buyable in unlimited quantity so you'll have plenty of opportunity to mess with different boss weapons. the only thing you should be limited on per playthrough is slabs but i think you get enough for at least 4-5 maxed weapons per run, plus possibly more from the DLC.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 20 Dec 2016, 09:54
by diabolik
I got Black Sword and I got a Wolf Knight sword too, so I'll be looking into those. I almost always use boss souls for weapons. Thanks for the opinions! I'm right now stuck at Borean Valley Dancer, got the cunt like down to 25% health but haven't got further, then again I haven't had time to give some serious several hour runs at her.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 23:02
by zim
i beat the fume knight which made me feel like i bad ass because i've read that he's supposed to be the most difficult boss in ds2. but the blue smelter demon seems like way more of a pain in the ass :oldryan:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 23:14
by happiness and harmony
do these games require your soul to play


is that why they are the souls games

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 28 Dec 2016, 00:12
by jawn galliano
they do and It is

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 28 Dec 2016, 01:44
by happiness and harmony
:Santa:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 01:12
by diabolik
Cinder of Souls is DOD. Freaking epic battle! I'm happy, now on to NG+. Didn't kill Nameless King.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 01:33
by zim
i stupidly bought a ps4 controller for my pc thinking the third party software would be fine. naw son. it was constantly disconnecting and giving me issues in the middle of playing ds. waiting on a xbox controller to ship. :idea:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 02:35
by jawn galliano
i use inputmapper for my PS4 controller, which i set up strictly for DS3. haven't had any connectivity issues that i can recall.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 04:08
by zim
[quote="Hitoshura"]
i use inputmapper for my PS4 controller, which i set up strictly for DS3. haven't had any connectivity issues that i can recall.
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ds4windows is what i used. it really annoys me because i loved the ps4 controller but ds4windows was always giving me issues. i could never just pick up the controller and play, i had to enable/disable in devices, reboot the computer, etc.  probably should have tried input mapper before i took it back to the store but i'd rather just get a plug n play controller at this point.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 17:31
by zim
finished ds2 tonight but i left a few bosses undefeated so i'm kind of unhappy about it

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 08:57
by User
i didn't know this was on PC, maybe i should check it out
 
then stormy and i can talk souls over real ale in dank british pubs filled with smelly carpet

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 09:47
by jawn galliano
it is completely excellent, you should :judge:
 
you'll want some kind of controller for it though as keyboard control is mega awkward

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 15:59
by zim
started ds1 tonight. i think it's going to take me awhile to adjust but i am liking it, it feels scarier than ds2.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 22:00
by jawn galliano
oh that is most excellent news :gay::::::::::::::: i trust you have dsfix installed
 
in terms of atmosphere it is definitely a lot spookier compared to DS2, i think. bonfires are usually a lot further apart and there's no fast travel until late in the game, so the stakes are a lot higher with respect to exploring the world.
 
where have you gone so far

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 03 Jan 2017, 00:38
by zim
haven't gone very far yet, the beginning of this game is incredibly open. i made the mistake of dropping into a graveyard area where two skeletons promptly kicked my ass :oldryan: so then i traveled upward to undead burg. stopped right after i killed the taurus demon and met solaire.
 
rolling/dodging bosses feels way different than in ds2

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 03 Jan 2017, 01:11
by jawn galliano
oh yeah, that's the entrance to the catacombs. definitely not the intended route on your first play, although if you're bold you can snar some good stuff in there. it's just a bitch your first time in because there's necromancers along the route that resurrect the skeletons.
 
the weight thresholds are different, i believe in DS2 you could get the fastest roll as long as you were under 50-60% equipment capacity. you have to stay under 25% to get it in the original, if you go over that you have fewer invincibility frames and longer recovery. 25-50% is more recovery with some invincibility, and 50%+ has additional recovery on top of that and no invincibility.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 03 Jan 2017, 06:30
by User
my torrent is at 6.5%
 
i feel like this is one of those games i should read the manual of before i start

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 07 Jan 2017, 22:41
by jawn galliano
hey luke did you give this a try yet

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 08 Jan 2017, 06:44
by User
torrent is at 91.4%

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 08 Jan 2017, 08:18
by zim
you must have australian internet speeds or something

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 08 Jan 2017, 09:16
by User
it is now complete :grim:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 08 Jan 2017, 09:28
by zim
if you're playing ds1 install this http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/19/

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 08 Jan 2017, 10:06
by jawn galliano
aye dsfix is absolutely essential. i still have no idea how they released a retail pc version with a fixed internal resolution and never updated it :alien:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 08 Jan 2017, 11:26
by zim
i wonder how they ported it, maybe they hired a 3rd party team that wasn't capable of actually fixing real issues

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 13:48
by User
i got distracted by replaying OoT :oldryan:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 17:04
by zim
well, let me be the first to tell you to stop doing that and
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Re: Souls Games

Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 17:32
by zim
i'm having a hard time getting hooked on ds1, it's not drawing me in quite like ds2 did.

also 5 steps into blighttown i wanted to kill myself

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 00:45
by jawn galliano
bring lots of poison/toxic purging meds :idea:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 04:27
by zim
i went back to ds2 last night and beat the blue smelter demon (after about 20 tries) and then sir alonne

now all i have left is dark lurker, ancient dragon, and the kings pets :oldryan:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 05:14
by User
i still haven't installed it because OoT and business but it will happen

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 15:19
by diabolik
Does anyone have DS2 on PS4? Worth getting? I'd like to play DS2 again but too lazy to hook it up.

Super love to Luke for play OoT!

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 15 Jan 2017, 17:13
by Methuselah Honeysuckle
:stormysignal:

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 00:41
by jawn galliano
nah i only have the original version on PS3. if you really loved it the first time around and have nothing else to play it's probably worth a look, but if you haven't played bloodborne yet i'd prioritize that.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 05:19
by User
i am basically playing OoT because of that video game introduction screen thread

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 16:32
by zim
where are you at in OoT? i started playing it over the summer and have only been picking it up very casually. i think i just finished lord jabu-jabu

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 19:01
by User
i am about to do the jabu boss

i haven't played it since the old, old days, i think i replayed it again around 2003-4 but not since. it is really, really easy. i am hoping water temple remains the challenge i remember it being.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 10:08
by diabolik
Hahaa! I got you.

I bought Bloodborne last week but haven't really liked it so far. The control is kinda clonky and I don't like the tight spaces that never seem to end. I'll probably continue it at some point, but just hasn't grown on me yet at all. So in the meanwhile I've been playing DS3 pvp a lot.

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 23 Jan 2017, 07:53
by User
i was at a fellating lover's house and we were drinking and i said i had gotten this dark souls thing and his ears went up like an antenna and he told me that in fact the important game is demon souls and we went inside and he had it on ps3 and he challenged me to beat the first level and 2.5 hours later i still had not beaten it but i was up to the phalanx boss which i discovered later is made considerably easier if you have herbs to replenish your HP and fire to kill the little bastards with but i didn't have either of these things

i liked the aesthetic of demon souls and the combat system, it was basically like zelda 64. i am looking forward more to playing dark souls now

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 23 Jan 2017, 08:39
by jawn galliano
:thingy:

demon's souls is the original and in many aspects still the best in the series. there's some weirdness like the world tendency mechanics which can be a pain to deal with, but it's still the benchmark for level design in the series (followed very closely by dark souls). on average, the bosses are also probably amongst the most challenging if you fight them straight up, but with maybe one or two exceptions there's very effective cheese strats for most of them.

2.5 hours is pretty good for making it to the end of 1-1 for the first time, i'm pretty sure i took longer than that. grasses are fairly common drops in the first area though so you can farm up a shitload to heal up indefinitely while you whittle down phalanx. did you kill the red eyed knight at all?

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 07:46
by User
fuck no i did not kill that red eyed bastard, what the fuck was with that hard-on bearer

i could kill the blue eyed guys no problems though

the dragons also killed me

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 08:45
by jawn galliano
he guards the entrance to an optional boss you fight much later on in the game :ba:

once you're more accustomed though you can kill him at low level for easy early-game soul farming

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 02:44
by Verbal
this is one of those threads i wish i could make stop alerting me about new posts

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 03:28
by jawn galliano
gleeso has not mastered the basics of roll-dodging past the new post notifications

Re: Souls Games

Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 03:29
by Verbal
i dont understand the question