TREY AND STEVE WORKING TOGETHER FOR NEXT MA

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Time will reveal all I suppose.  Whatever fucking happens, the next album better have the I word.
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Very excited about this news.
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Can never get a straight response from Vincent. This is an official statement from his publicist:

 
"I am aware of Trey Azagthoth's announcement of a collaboration with Steve Tucker on regenerated death music. However, the inference that I have left MORBID ANGEL is incorrect. To be clear, I have not left MORBID ANGEL nor have I been asked to do so."

 

So what the hell does that mean? Steve Tucker is happening but he's not leaving? :oldryan:
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But evil d is :taint:
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This is bullshit. The Illud album was written by Trey. Not by David. Morbid Angel needs to concentrate on making good music, not arbitrarily switching vocalists. 
 
David should stay in Morbid Angel. All the dudes on this forum going "Yippee Steve Tucker, now MA will make a great record" are idiots.
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[quote="Uni"]
Would not surprise me in the least if David really did not know about this.
 
This is turning in a soap-opera; the Illud fuck-up, All the remarks about the ex- bandmembers vs MA and vice versa and whatnot.. Fans being narrowminded in regard to those who didn't liked what they heard. Steve's projects which did not do anything but fail.. (anybody remember his statement regarding his departure?)
Then all the idiots who soley blamed David for the illud fuckup while the majority of the crap was written by Trey himself... But which is convienently put aside. He fucking ducked away safely while David had to defend that piece of waste.. Sure as hell did not like some things in David's handeling of the press the last couple of years but turning him into the scapegoat is too easy..
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What was Steve's statement regarding his departure again? I understood the reasons where 'external', not lacking band profesionalism or stuff like that.
 
I agree that Trey has withdrawn out of the press very quickly and has David taken the heat oversince. Trey has failed experimenting musically but with his father dying and now this news, it's my impression that he has regained creative interest in eerie death metal, simular to the situation with Gregor Mackintosh leading up to Vallenfyre.
 
I've learned that the collaboration between Steve & Trey has been ging on for a little more than 6 months now.
David's moving to Austin has maybe let him overlooking an email or Trey was so caught up in the creative process with Steve that he forgot about notifying David (or he held him back in reserve just in case it didn't pan out with Steve) either way with this statement, David's out since it's Trey's band. The way this is handled though, is backstabbingly ugly.
 
With Dave returning to MA in 2005, he has kept the band from falling apart. It seems that Trey has taken matters into his own hands now, simular to the FFttF era.
Only now without Pete. Who will fill the drummer spot is interesting. Mike Smith maybe? Maybe even a guest spot for Mike Browning on a AOD kinda song? Demon Seed is still not reused..
And also if Thor wil be maintained or replaced as well with someone with better leadplaying skills? Maybe it's time for Wojtek Lisicki to do another audition in the near future.
 
Trey's post 17 hours ago:
 
"wow thanx so much for the positive replies already!

Im really stoked about all this.

My heart has always been in the underworld and freaky art and all those kinda cool things. Even if no one liked this idea I was still going to do it cause thats the kinda freaky artist I am ;) "
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This interview has some statements regarding his departure. He seemed pretty fed up with it all.
 
 
Former MORBID ANGEL singer/bassist Steve Tucker was recently interviewed by Metal1.info in regards to his decision to leave the band and what his plans for the future are.
Metal1.info: Hello Steve, thanks a lot for taking your time to answer our interview with metal1.info.
Steve Tucker: “Not a problem....”
Some days ago, the official Morbid Angel web site reported, that the band parted ways with you as the singer and bassist of the group. Can you give us some background information on that and why this decision was made?
“I didn't feel that I wanted to be a part of Morbid Angel any longer. There were some issues I had with people's commitment and desire. I play from the heart and could never do anything that wasn't 100% real to me. So I felt it was time to go do something else.”
Your statement on the web site was really sympathetic, I think. Which things will you miss mostly?
“Like I said in the statement, I will miss the fans, that is what I missed last time I left and they are the reason I came back and gave it another shot.”
What were the three most important things the band brought to you?
“I don't know really, that is hard to say, because for everything it gave to me, it took something from me. I committed almost 8 years to this band. 8 Years that are gone and can never be regained. I met a lot of cool people. I was able to see a large part of the world. And I had some great shows!! But at the same time, I dealt with a lot of shit that I wouldn't have had to deal with had it been my own band.... So this is a hard question.”
The former singer and bassist David Vincent was hired to play four gigs in South America . What do you think of his short rejoin?
“I think it was bound to happen really, I think it is what Morbid Angel should do, a reunion !! I think it would be the best thing for the M.A. legacy. But I am sure they will do whatever they feel is best, though it may not actually be so. Trey has a very twisted sense of reality..”
Would you tell us what you think about the person David Vincent? Lots of people think he is an asshole because of his national socialistic conviction.
“I have no personal problems with David, we have met many times and he has always been very cool to me, his wife Gen as well, the two of them have never had anything but good things to say to me. And me to them as well. As far as his political views, that is his business. I truly wonder how much of that is gimmick, check the facts, he is very image oriented. That is not an insult; it is just based on facts.”
Can you tell us something about the regenerated death Morbid Angel singer? There is no serious information given, yet.
“Man, I have no idea what they are going to do. That is the Truth.”
Is there a singer you would prefer to join the band?
“Like I said, I think they should do a reunion tour. I don't know about another CD, I think David and Morbid are worlds from each other musically at this point. But maybe after some touring that will change.”
What do you know about the rest of Morbid Angel – how long do you expect the band to keep run?
“I don't know. I know there are reasons for them to stop and reasons for them to continue. They are not young guys at all, but then again, I think there is no one in the world to match Pete. So I think that is up to them and their desire.”
What are your plans for the following weeks? Will you step into another project or even form a regenerated death one with you as the singer?
“For now, I think I will step away from Death Metal for awhile, I have no desire to have stuff that I do compared to Morbid ,so some time is necessary to let peoples minds clear. I am finishing work on a CD for my other band, I have been calling it Shaank, but that may change. This is a more dynamic heavy music. Aggressive, but not Death Metal. It is all about emotion, not just anger, but there is definitely anger in it. It draws from other influences I had growing up. It is not Nu metal or anything like that, I have a hard time describing it really...
But later, I think I will work with some of the people in Death Metal that I really admire and do some more stuff. For now it is just going to be Shaank, I will do some production stuff and possibly some management stuff. My plate is very full actually...”
What are your favourite Morbid Angel records?
“Gateways, Covenant.....”
If you had the chance to sing for a re-release of an Morbid Angel album with Vincent as the singer – which would it be?
“I wouldn't. He did a great job and there is no need to change it.”
Concerning the last record, Heretic, many people said, more “full” songs would have been better than about 70 “tracks” with drum checks, licks and so. What's your opinion?
“I agree with them actually. And I think the production is shit!! There are some great songs that are ruined by the shit production. This was all out of my hands really. Trey thinks the production is the best Morbid Ever sounded. Opinions, man. Everyone has them.”
What do you think of the Death Metal fans? On the road you can see lots of older fans wearing Carcass-, Morbid Angel- or Corpse-Shirts for example. And there are also the young fans at the age of about 20. Which reactions do you get from your fans? Do they expect more than in the early 90's?
“I think Death Metal fans are brilliant!! Loyal until the end. Again I thank everyone for their support!! And Yes, I do think they expect more, the shock value is gone now, in the early 90's people were just blown away. Now there is so much truly extreme stuff out there that nothing is really very shocking. But now I think it is much more important to play what is honest to you. The fans definitely can feel what is real.”
After the Gateways… you parted ways with the band for the first time. Was your appearance on the Heretic planned or did you just fill the missing part?
“It wasn't planned at all. There were some serious issues that were dealt with before I came back. A lot of these issues returned to rear their ugly head again though. Sometimes people just cannot see eye to eye. But that is life man, you just go on until you find what makes you comfortable. I enjoyed my time playing in Morbid Angel, due to the fans. I am glad it happened.”
As previously reported, GENITORTURE's Evil D (former Morbid Angel frontman David Vincent) has been asked to cover four shows that Morbid Angel had to reschedule due to the unexpected last minute departure of Steve Tucker. He has agreed to play four shows in South America and for now that is the only thing that he has committed to doing with the band. His "status" with Genitorturers is unchanged and he is currently in the studio working on the regenerated death Genitorturers album.
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Trey's mom posted this on Trey's Facebook page:
 
"David is out...Steve is in....that should stop all the confusion..."
 
https://www.facebook.com/treyazagthothofficial
 
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So trey's mom had to confirm it and david got to know about it through FB?
That's a desent way to go about things....
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[quote="Uni"]
So trey's mom had to confirm it and david got to know about it through FB?
That's a desent way to go about things....
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This is retarded on a major level. I've lost a lot of respect for Trey today. It's like he's a child. Have the maturity to talk it through with David and if you have to have him leave, then at least make sure that he knows so the process goes through smoothly and professionally. Impulsive brat.
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This is retarded on a major level. I've lost a lot of respect for Trey today. It's like he's a child. Have the maturity to talk it through with David and if you have to have him leave, then at least make sure that he knows and the process goes through smoothly and professionally. Impulsive brat.
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So trey's mom had to confirm it and david got to know about it through FB?
That's a desent way to go about things....
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Welcome to 2015 ! ! !
 
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HIS MOM......
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The man is 50 years old....
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[quote="Uni"]
 
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Uni" data-cid="549513" data-time="1434554889">
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So trey's mom had to confirm it and david got to know about it through FB?
That's a desent way to go about things....
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Welcome to 2015 ! ! !
 
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HIS MOM......
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The man is 50 years old....
 
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Yeah, but he's still a kid at heart!
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meh, who gives a flying shit. i just want some new tucker/azagthoth tunes.
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meh, who gives a flying shit. i just want some regenerated death tucker/azagthoth tunes.
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In a brand new post on his Facebook page, Tucker, who last year released the debut album from his WARFATHER project, addressed some of the confusion regarding the current status of MORBID ANGEL. He wrote: "Here are a few answers to questions that I keep getting asked…
"What's up with David? I don't have a fucking clue, and I don't think that I am the only one.
"Is [former MORBID ANGEL drummer] Pete Sandoval coming back? I fucking wish that would happen!
"Will there be both myself and David in MORBID ANGEL? Hahahahhahhahahaha. Sorry, man, I play death metal, so, NO.
"Who will play second guitar? Time will answer that one...
"And last but not least, will WARFATHER continue? Absolutely! We track the new album in three weeks at Mana Studios, with my brother Erik Rutan producing!"
In a 2014 interview with New Noise Magazine, Tucker was asked for his opinion on MORBID ANGEL's controversial 2011 album "Illud Divinum Insanus", which incorporated industrial and electronic elements into the band's traditional death metal sound.
"I really have nothing to say about that album," he replied. "However, fans have a right to an opinion. Regardless, I think MORBID ANGEL has made a career of doing what they want to do and not being worried about what people think they should do."
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meh, who gives a flying shit. i just want some regenerated death tucker/azagthoth tunes.
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"And last but not least, will WARFATHER continue? Absolutely! We track the regenerated death album in three weeks at Mana Studios, with my brother Erik Rutan producing!"
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Ok, now that has me interested in them - Erik will get wicked TONEZ and great sound!
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hahaha that's what i thought too fukket :redneck:
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Some cunt delete that for me please, thnx.
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[quote="rhino"]
"Will there be both myself and David in MORBID ANGEL? Hahahahhahhahahaha. Sorry, man, I play death metal, so, NO.
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Well at least he calls it death metal.. instead of "Extreme Music".
That's one of the things which i couldn't stand in the interviews in recent times... When you need to tell people you are extreme there is something wrong...
 
I sincerely hope they can put all the crap behind them and still have a couple of cool releases in them.
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Well, Myhren is officially out as well.
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Source?
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Ok thanks.
 
With everyone bailing/let go.. Either Evil-D was seriously kept in the dark, overlooked an email :redneck: , or is using the press to look surprised.
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Ok thanks.
 
With everyone bailing/let go.. Either Evil-D was seriously kept in the dark, overlooked an email :redneck: , or is using the press to look surprised.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he knew and is using press now. Vincent contributed to one of the best MA eras, and I'll always admire the musical and intellectual aspect (although I know some will disagree, but resort back to the thread where I explain all of this) plus overall vibe of that day. However the one thing I think that holds him back is a certain lack of candor and not "being real." Everything is about a presentation with him and fans see through that. Contrary to what some think, I don't hold Trey without blame either. He said it once before that he ignored David in doing something that was against the meaning of the band. So you're telling me he had no hand in what has gone on in the past years especially with illud in anus? Of course he did! But at least you know that is what you get with Trey: feral, unpredictable, quixotic. I am just looking forward to at least one more special, legendary MA album. The TRUE MA.
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Hear Hear.
 
Agree with you completely about David. (Remember the threat you talk about)
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I think something else to consider is how old this band is, they aren't exactly in the market for younger / new fans, the fan base is already established. I don't think this doing them too much harm. As transcending said, Trey has always been an unpredictable cat and i think that keeps it interesting.
 
Thor was an alright guitarist in MA but I was never a fan of his soloing, it was always kind of :oldryan:. Maybe if they end up in Erik's studio he will contribute to the album.
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this is much too extreme for me
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I wish it hadn't taken four years after the fuck up of Illud for this to happen :shakefist:
 
Although on the other hand, maybe Trey has grown out of his techno fellatio by now, whereas we could have had another two albums like Illud otherwise :bulb:
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Here's to hoping they don't use a drum machine on the next one :chug:
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Bassist/vocalist David Vincent of Florida death metal veterans MORBID ANGEL has released the following statement:
"I had good communication with Trey [Azagthoth, MORBID ANGEL guitarist] yesterday and we agree that there are incompatibilities with regards to us working together.
"Trey and I have accomplished amazing things together over the past 30 years and I wish him the best with his future projects. Out of respect for the legacy of these accomplishments, I encourage MORBID ANGEL fans to not take sides, because I am not.
"I look forward to sharing my new endeavors with all of you in the near future. Until then, stay Morbid!"
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Class statement, but I still suspect he knew.
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I'm really excited actually now :greenie:


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Tony Laureano maybe!
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I wonder if David Vincent moving to Texas was a deal breaker for Trey, given what Thor said about Trey wanting to work with someone more local.
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Derek Roddy, Kevin Talley, Nick Barker, Dave Culross :dizzy:
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i honestly think derek roddy isn't right for morbid angel
 
i would love to see them find some unknown up and coming drummer that slays
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No, not at this point in there career.


Maybe when they came back in 04/05 or whenever



But now they need established musicians and go out with a bang
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that is both the expression on his face and how i feel
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