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Holy shit on a shingle
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i dont understand
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as usual
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Haha you cant make this shit up
I guess (according to dino,) this is for the drums production because monolith had programmed drums, new guitars, and synths. Burtons vocals will remain
Either way this is probably the nail in the coffin for fear factory as you can tell those two clearly arent communicating. Now they definitely won't reach the goal of 25 grand
I guess (according to dino,) this is for the drums production because monolith had programmed drums, new guitars, and synths. Burtons vocals will remain
Either way this is probably the nail in the coffin for fear factory as you can tell those two clearly arent communicating. Now they definitely won't reach the goal of 25 grand
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they're halfway there
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Wait i thought dino and burton were on good terms. This shit is like a fucking soap opera.rhino wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 08:20Haha you cant make this shit up
I guess (according to dino,) this is for the drums production because monolith had programmed drums, new guitars, and synths. Burtons vocals will remain
Either way this is probably the nail in the coffin for fear factory as you can tell those two clearly arent communicating. Now they definitely won't reach the goal of 25 grand
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I thought so too. Regardless this album will still be released because of their nuclear blast contract but any touring or new music beyond that it sounds doubtful. Oh well
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Only thing missing is a big white Comic Sans 36 saying FUCK YOU DINO
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so basically they are gonna put out an album but the odds of them touring are slim to none. RIP FF
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Considering the facts, I'd say is a solid NORufus T. Firefly wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 22:03so basically they are gonna put out an album but the odds of them touring are slim to none. RIP FF
Let's not forget the "FUCK YOU DINO"
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this all seems fucked up, just want more music tbh
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Someone got Wolbers to chip in, he pretty much laughed at them and then declined working with “a bipolar and a pedo” again
Dino’s a pedo now
All this is really
Dino’s a pedo now
All this is really
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isnt burnton the pedo
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It's happening dudes
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Sounds like shit to me
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interviewed by Dave "Higgo" Higgins of Australia's MMM Hard
On wanting to take the already-completed 2017 recordings for the new FEAR FACTORY album and update them before releasing the effort next year:
Dino: "One thing I wanted to make clear is that, at the time, it's public knowledge that we were all going through a lot of legalities regarding the FEAR FACTORY trademark, the FEAR FACTORY name. So, when we were recording this record, there was no guarantee that it was gonna be called FEAR FACTORY at all, because at the time that we were going through these legalities, everything was on hold and the courts owned the FEAR FACTORY name — they controlled the FEAR FACTORY name. So, when we were actually recording the record, there was absolutely no certainty whatsoever that it was gonna be called FEAR FACTORY. As a matter of fact, fans had found this out, and they were actually trying to help us come up with a name, and they had come up with some pretty creative names that I was definitely considering. But, luckily, things worked out and I won my lawsuit and I was able to regain ownership of the FEAR FACTORY name. Now, fast forward to 2020, again, I regained the name in July. I went back and revisited what we recorded, and I was, like, there are some things that are just missing on this record that I just wanna improve and make better for everybody — for everybody to enjoy a great FEAR FACTORY record."
On recent statements posted on the social media pages of FEAR FACTORY singer Burton C. Bell which were of a derogatory nature with respect to the GoFundMe campaign, calling it a "scam" and insisting that Bell would not "benefit" from the fundraising effort:
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Dino: "I don't really know who made those comments. Those are on Burton C. Bell's Instagram and other places that he's commented on, but that's not the hard-on bearer that I know; that's not the Burton I know. Burton does not lash out at people on Instagram or Facebook — none of his social media is like that. That's not the person I know. So whoever is controlling his social media might be the one that's misinformed. Now, those comments didn't sound like it came from somebody who's been in the music business for 30 years. Those comments sound like somebody who had no knowledge of how the music business works. And the reason I say that is because of the comment that said that they don't benefit from this GoFundMe page. And the person [who wrote that] is wrong, because, in the long run, Burton does benefit from this GoFundMe page, and he benefits from a great record when it comes out."
On whether he has spoken to Burton directly about his decision to update the 2017 recordings and release them:
Dino: "No, I have not spoken to him. He's made it clear that he's distancing himself from FEAR FACTORY because he is working on [his] ASCENSION OF THE WATCHERS [project]. Now, I'm quoting him, and he's [told the] media and [gone] on record [as] saying that. We have tried to reach each other over the years, but we do not have exactly the perfect relationship. Usually when Burt's working on a project, he disappears and he focuses on that. That I know from 30 years of knowing him and being in the business with him — those things I know. And that's it. There hasn't been any communication between us two at all whatsoever — lately."
On how the FEAR FACTORY creative process works:
Dino: "There's two parts to FEAR FACTORY — there's one that's the vocals, and there's one that's the music. Burt's position is he comes up with the lyrics, he comes up with the concept, he comes up with the vocal melodies and the vocal rhythms and all that stuff to deal with the vocals. Now, when it comes to the music — guitars, bass, drums, keyboards and mixing and production — that's where I come in, and that's my position, and that's how it's been for years. So, I wanted to go back and revisit the music that I had tracked way back in 2017. Now, fast forward to 2020, when I regained the rights to FEAR FACTORY and I had the right to go in and change the music, that's my responsibility — that's me doing that. That's what my position is in. Now, Burt's vocals remain intact. That's on the record, and it sounds amazing. And this record is gonna sound so killer. Because of these donations that we've gotten and all the fans who supported the GoFundMe page, we were able to hire the production team that we had on our last record, on 'Genexus'. That means Andy Sneap is gonna be mixing the record. Mike Heller, our drummer, he recorded live drums, 'cause on the initial recording, it was drum programming. And I wanted to put live drums — I wanted that little bit of a human feel on the record. So we went back and got Mike Heller to play drums. I wanted our longtime keyboardist Rhys Fulber. He didn't appear on the 2017 recording. Rhys is like our fifth member. I felt that that fifth-member vibe that he always brought to all our records, I thought that was missing. So I wanted to bring him in on a few songs. And then the hard-on bearer who produced 'Genexus', I wanted him to come back, too, and produce all these little things that I was improving on this record. His name's Damien Rainaud, and he came in. So I wanted to bring that team back in. And that's not cheap. Because I want the same thing that everybody else wants — I want this record to be the shit; I want it to be the best it could be."
On the musical direction of the new FEAR FACTORY album:
Dino: "Right now, as of right now, it's got a very, very 'Genexus' vibe, the last record. But we do have some aggression on this record that comes from the 'Mechanize' [2010] era, but I would say a close second to 'Genexus'. It has the groove, it has all the amazing industrial elements that we've had over the years, new stuff. Again, we've got the production team back, and I'm very excited about that. We've got Mike Heller, who's been with us for the past seven years as our drummer. He slams on this record — he sounds amazing... I don't wanna give too much away, because it's not gonna come out till next year. But I can't wait for people to hear it. I can't wait to be on the road. I hope the world opens up. I hope we can get back on the road and start touring again. Those are my aspirations that I wanna see happen."
On wanting to take the already-completed 2017 recordings for the new FEAR FACTORY album and update them before releasing the effort next year:
Dino: "One thing I wanted to make clear is that, at the time, it's public knowledge that we were all going through a lot of legalities regarding the FEAR FACTORY trademark, the FEAR FACTORY name. So, when we were recording this record, there was no guarantee that it was gonna be called FEAR FACTORY at all, because at the time that we were going through these legalities, everything was on hold and the courts owned the FEAR FACTORY name — they controlled the FEAR FACTORY name. So, when we were actually recording the record, there was absolutely no certainty whatsoever that it was gonna be called FEAR FACTORY. As a matter of fact, fans had found this out, and they were actually trying to help us come up with a name, and they had come up with some pretty creative names that I was definitely considering. But, luckily, things worked out and I won my lawsuit and I was able to regain ownership of the FEAR FACTORY name. Now, fast forward to 2020, again, I regained the name in July. I went back and revisited what we recorded, and I was, like, there are some things that are just missing on this record that I just wanna improve and make better for everybody — for everybody to enjoy a great FEAR FACTORY record."
On recent statements posted on the social media pages of FEAR FACTORY singer Burton C. Bell which were of a derogatory nature with respect to the GoFundMe campaign, calling it a "scam" and insisting that Bell would not "benefit" from the fundraising effort:
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Dino: "I don't really know who made those comments. Those are on Burton C. Bell's Instagram and other places that he's commented on, but that's not the hard-on bearer that I know; that's not the Burton I know. Burton does not lash out at people on Instagram or Facebook — none of his social media is like that. That's not the person I know. So whoever is controlling his social media might be the one that's misinformed. Now, those comments didn't sound like it came from somebody who's been in the music business for 30 years. Those comments sound like somebody who had no knowledge of how the music business works. And the reason I say that is because of the comment that said that they don't benefit from this GoFundMe page. And the person [who wrote that] is wrong, because, in the long run, Burton does benefit from this GoFundMe page, and he benefits from a great record when it comes out."
On whether he has spoken to Burton directly about his decision to update the 2017 recordings and release them:
Dino: "No, I have not spoken to him. He's made it clear that he's distancing himself from FEAR FACTORY because he is working on [his] ASCENSION OF THE WATCHERS [project]. Now, I'm quoting him, and he's [told the] media and [gone] on record [as] saying that. We have tried to reach each other over the years, but we do not have exactly the perfect relationship. Usually when Burt's working on a project, he disappears and he focuses on that. That I know from 30 years of knowing him and being in the business with him — those things I know. And that's it. There hasn't been any communication between us two at all whatsoever — lately."
On how the FEAR FACTORY creative process works:
Dino: "There's two parts to FEAR FACTORY — there's one that's the vocals, and there's one that's the music. Burt's position is he comes up with the lyrics, he comes up with the concept, he comes up with the vocal melodies and the vocal rhythms and all that stuff to deal with the vocals. Now, when it comes to the music — guitars, bass, drums, keyboards and mixing and production — that's where I come in, and that's my position, and that's how it's been for years. So, I wanted to go back and revisit the music that I had tracked way back in 2017. Now, fast forward to 2020, when I regained the rights to FEAR FACTORY and I had the right to go in and change the music, that's my responsibility — that's me doing that. That's what my position is in. Now, Burt's vocals remain intact. That's on the record, and it sounds amazing. And this record is gonna sound so killer. Because of these donations that we've gotten and all the fans who supported the GoFundMe page, we were able to hire the production team that we had on our last record, on 'Genexus'. That means Andy Sneap is gonna be mixing the record. Mike Heller, our drummer, he recorded live drums, 'cause on the initial recording, it was drum programming. And I wanted to put live drums — I wanted that little bit of a human feel on the record. So we went back and got Mike Heller to play drums. I wanted our longtime keyboardist Rhys Fulber. He didn't appear on the 2017 recording. Rhys is like our fifth member. I felt that that fifth-member vibe that he always brought to all our records, I thought that was missing. So I wanted to bring him in on a few songs. And then the hard-on bearer who produced 'Genexus', I wanted him to come back, too, and produce all these little things that I was improving on this record. His name's Damien Rainaud, and he came in. So I wanted to bring that team back in. And that's not cheap. Because I want the same thing that everybody else wants — I want this record to be the shit; I want it to be the best it could be."
On the musical direction of the new FEAR FACTORY album:
Dino: "Right now, as of right now, it's got a very, very 'Genexus' vibe, the last record. But we do have some aggression on this record that comes from the 'Mechanize' [2010] era, but I would say a close second to 'Genexus'. It has the groove, it has all the amazing industrial elements that we've had over the years, new stuff. Again, we've got the production team back, and I'm very excited about that. We've got Mike Heller, who's been with us for the past seven years as our drummer. He slams on this record — he sounds amazing... I don't wanna give too much away, because it's not gonna come out till next year. But I can't wait for people to hear it. I can't wait to be on the road. I hope the world opens up. I hope we can get back on the road and start touring again. Those are my aspirations that I wanna see happen."
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Honestly they will probably tour, and make more records after this unless they get too old. This isn't the first time burton distanced himself from fear factory, then he always comes back to that big pay check
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Pretty sure christian was talking about dino, but christian is such a butt hurt ex it's hard to take anything he says seriously
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So burton officially quit fear factory
Dunno how this effects the new album
Dunno how this effects the new album
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Vocalist Burton C. Bell Quits Fear Factory: “I Cannot Align Myself With Someone Whom I Do Not Trust, Nor Respect”
Vocalist Burton C. Bell has announced his departure from Fear Factory. His decision to part ways with the band emerges via a messy resolution to the behind the scenes legal drama that plagued a sizable portion of the band’s career. It would appear that guitarist Dino Cazares emerged the victor of those legalities, having recently claimed to own 100% of the band.
In a newly issued statement via burtoncbell.com, Bell stated of his exit:
“IN MY OWN WORDS
I consider myself a private person, preferring to keep my personal business to myself and trusted loved ones. I make my public statements with thoughtful intent, never deviating from the truth, in spite of the consistent series of dishonest representations and unfounded accusations from past and present band members; a toxic drama I choose to not be part of.
The past several years have been profoundly agonizing, with these members bleeding my passion with depraved deceit. As a direct consequence of their greed, these three have dragged me through the unjust, judicial system, resulting in the legal attrition that has financially crippled me.
In the end, these three members have taken possession of my principal livelihood. However, they will never take my 30-year legacy as the beating heart of the machine. A legacy that no other member, past or present, can ever claim.
So, it is after considerable, contemplative soul searching that I have come to the realization that I cannot align myself with someone whom I do not trust, nor respect. Therefore, I am announcing to my fans my departure from Fear Factory, to focus all my energy and attention toward the continuing success for Ascension of The Watchers, and all my future endeavors.
I am very proud of the Ascension of The Watchers’ latest album, APOCRYPHA. The writing and recording process for APOCRYPHA has been a truly cathartic and artistic journey of exploration and growth for me. Reigniting my passions for my writing, allowing my music to flourish, enabling my soul to soar, saving me from the real hell that engulfed a significant part of my daily life. Collaborating with talented, kindred spirits has truly created an inspirational environment of support and mutual respect, a spirit I have missed for a very long time.
I would like to thank all of my fans for their continued support throughout my career. I am very proud of my achievements, but, it is time for me to move forward. Now I look to the future with open eyes, open mind and open heart, as my artistic path strives for even greater success in music, writing and my art. It’s true, “the end is always the beginning”. The soul is free from the machine.”
Since gaining the rights to Fear Factory earlier this year, guitarist Dino Cazares has launched this GoFundMe campaign to raise funds to complete the band’s unreleased 2017 album, which at the time was titled “Monolith“.
Cazares has been back in the studio revisiting that effort with guest musicians and drummer Mike Heller after being unhappy with its original incarnation. That effort features vocals recorded by Bell during the album’s original sessions. As Cazares recently told MetalSucks, he and Bell had not talked in quite some time. He also stated that there was never any direct litigation between himself and Bell.
Cazares said in the same interview that he has “love and respect” for Bell and had hoped to welcome him back to the band as an equal member. Given this latest development, it would appear that Bell has other plans.
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Well then
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Yikes. RIP FF.
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There was really no way for them to carry on after this shit parade
Now burton can do what he wants, and dino will release the new album next year then hopefully he does his solo thing he was supposed to be doing, and live shows they can do ff songs as a tribute
Edit: this is the singer he needs for a new project, as he tried out for his to be announced project, and this dude was clearly the best
Now burton can do what he wants, and dino will release the new album next year then hopefully he does his solo thing he was supposed to be doing, and live shows they can do ff songs as a tribute
Edit: this is the singer he needs for a new project, as he tried out for his to be announced project, and this dude was clearly the best
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Dino should just kill the band and do something else at this point.
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Answers from twitter:
- the album with burton will still be out next year
- ff is alive and well according to dino, and that there is hidden talent out there
No burton no ff!!!
- the album with burton will still be out next year
- ff is alive and well according to dino, and that there is hidden talent out there
No burton no ff!!!
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By all means this band was supposed to be done in 2002, then we still got 5 more albums after that and 1 on the way. Thanks for the tunes dudes
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Every member from archetype are now former members
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i am more excited about ac/dc's return than i am anything to do with new fear factory
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Will you give it a listen? Atleast one song?
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yes but only because you asked
i never even listen to the good old shit anymore, i can't be bothered with whatever half-flaccid nonsense they're pushing out now
i never even listen to the good old shit anymore, i can't be bothered with whatever half-flaccid nonsense they're pushing out now
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I'm sure the album will belt, but it really sucks they can't work this out.
Watched Dino on Rob Flynn's podcast the other day, and he found out about Burton's exit then and there. Went into detail as to what happened. Fucking legal problems.
Watched Dino on Rob Flynn's podcast the other day, and he found out about Burton's exit then and there. Went into detail as to what happened. Fucking legal problems.