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anybody have one of these? Lavabutt was looking at it many moons ago, but other than that, I haven't heard any other mabbers even mention Engl amps.



My old preamp died and I've been living with a POD2.0, was gonna upgrade to another modeller, but i'm fed up with that digital sound, I'd rather go back to valves.



Very close to purchasing...
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Engl discussions have popped up here and there. Quality stuff.
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well I went ahead and ordered it :sicken:
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tubes :shake:
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haha... piddle off man. If I could afford that shit, then I would get.... a KEMPER :greenie:
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I believe one of the Beak blokes uses the head you are referring to.



I dig his sound.
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I once played through mein fellating lover's powerball. Holy shit that's some tone. :shock:
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Picture a Marshall on steroids...and then some!
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[quote name="shadowalk"]I once played through mein fellating lover's powerball. Holy shit that's some tone. :shock:[/quote]



yeah, serisouly, those things kill
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did the box come with an instagram filter?



sorry ..:doubleoldjealous: :oops:
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I wanted to hide my address :redneck:



Just playing around with it, sounds pretty good through my cab, but I can't push it very loud at all atm. Trying it through my interface and headphones soon :xx:
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I've been messing around trying to record with this thing and I truly fucking suck at getting a good sound :redneck:



I'm trying to achieve something like Gateways to Annihilation, or anything like Behemoth, Lost Soul, modern death metal sound etc



Guitar>Engl>MBOX2>PC>Impulses

e530 set as followed: (this sounded best through my cab and seeing as though the impulses I used were as close as I could get to my poweramp and speakers, I left it)

lead gain 1 o'clock

bass 12 o'clock

lo mid 10 o'clock

hi mid 2 o'clock

treble 3 o'clock

contour off

lead volume 12 o'clock

hi gain on

lead channel



I done 4 tracks, 2 either side panned at 100% and 50%, recording both left at the same time and then both right at the same time.

Added a low and high pass to all tracks. It sounds pretty scooped and shrill, like fucking dying fetus or something.



Should I boost the low end and mids, cut the treble at the preamp stage? (logical) or add in post processing and EQ (polishing the turd).



Any advice? :homework:
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* shines Tom signal *
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[quote name="FUKKET"]* shines Tom signal *[/quote]

Yeah get in here already :santa:



[youtube]jSw98O-RQ-M[/youtube]

Excuse the crappy out of time playing and laughable drums, just banged basic patterns in in there for a guide (and something else to suck at).



Now compare that with this:



[youtube]EUW_tpkwwRU[/youtube]



Seriously more power, oopmh, mids and not muddy/shrill. :wall:
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[quote name="M.Bison"][youtube]EUW_tpkwwRU[/youtube][/quote]



is this you? MOAR!
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:redneck: :::::::::: no. mine is the shit one above it.
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it's hard to beat Engl for a muscular, articulate tone. They just sound angry!
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[quote name="Shredlord"]it's hard to beat Engl for a muscular, articulate tone. They just sound angry![/quote]

Shredders, any advice on how to get a better recording tone? It sounds great through my cab, but as you can hear, it seems I can't record for shit.
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Use a decent mic and toy with distance. Also, keep the distortion a good notch lower than how you want it to sound.
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[quote name="Abzu"]Use a decent mic and toy with distance. Also, keep the distortion a good notch lower than how you want it to sound.[/quote]

Good advice on the gain, I will try lowering it a tad, but I've been going DI and using impulses, not mic'ing. I would love to mic, but I can't play loud at home.
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[quote name="M.Bison"]
[quote name="Abzu"]Use a decent mic and toy with distance. Also, keep the distortion a good notch lower than how you want it to sound.[/quote]

Good advice on the gain, I will try lowering it a tad, but I've been going DI and using impulses, not mic'ing. I would love to mic, but I can't play loud at home.[/quote]

Well, in that case, just fiddle with the settings until it sounds right. :brushteeth:
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[quote name="M.Bison"]
[quote name="Shredlord"]it's hard to beat Engl for a muscular, articulate tone. They just sound angry![/quote]

Shredders, any advice on how to get a better recording tone? It sounds great through my cab, but as you can hear, it seems I can't record for shit.[/quote]

If you have two mics, try one up close (almost touching the grill) a little off-center from the cone (move it around until you find the "sweet spot" with lots of presence), then another one maybe 3 feet away to get the sound of the full cabinet. Blend to taste. :grin:



Wait...I just saw your post about not being able to play loud. Even if it's not loud, a mic'd cab is going to sound richer and more organic than a direct signal. I don't have any advice on direct recording.
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Can't mic? Use Recabinet!!! That plug-in saved my ass a bunch of times in the pro world. Fucking love it and it's cheap too.

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My guitarist got drunk the other day and ordered one of these, I look forward to touching it.



The guitarist from Vore has two of these with a mesa power amp powering two full stacks and they sound awesome.
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I follow bison's former approach as I use a Line 6 POD XT Live multi-FX plugged into my computer via USB and I plug into the aux in of my old 15w solid state as a speaker.



Although it would be really nice to make some noise on a real tube amp head and cab. Especially that ENGL Powerball whose roar I could just not forget. :eyes:
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