tensions are high in the middle east

[Verbal]

the whole situation honestly seems pretty complex

[zim]

i'm not paying attention to any of it honestly

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

Turn it all to glass

[Verbal]

iran launched about 200 missiles into israel. which has been described as a total dick move

[Noyka]

Yeah israel hitting their proxies hard it was expected

We should all be nervous now about involvement from others like china. Hopefully China helps rein in Iran and er help rein in Israel but we will see.

[jawn galliano]

they landed a warning shot on mossad HQ. good for them. anyone that can rein in the US-israel beast can and should for the good of humanity

[Ninny]

Might be best to liberate Iran

[Verbal]

they landed a warning shot on mossad HQ. good for them. anyone that can rein in the US-israel beast can and should for the good of humanity

anyone? even some lunatic jihadis?

[Verbal]

Yeah israel hitting their proxies hard it was expected

We should all be nervous now about involvement from others like china. Hopefully China helps rein in Iran and er help rein in Israel but we will see.

what involvement from china?

[Verbal]

i dont know enough to have a strong opinion. my opinion is that the whole situation seems pretty complex

[jawn galliano]

they landed a warning shot on mossad HQ. good for them. anyone that can rein in the US-israel beast can and should for the good of humanity

anyone? even some lunatic jihadis?

which lunatic jihadis are you referring to

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

The English

[Verbal]

they landed a warning shot on mossad HQ. good for them. anyone that can rein in the US-israel beast can and should for the good of humanity

anyone? even some lunatic jihadis?

which lunatic jihadis are you referring to

any of them

[Verbal]

The English

the english are lunatic jihadis?

[Verbal]

why cant we all just get along

[Noyka]

Yeah israel hitting their proxies hard it was expected

We should all be nervous now about involvement from others like china. Hopefully China helps rein in Iran and er help rein in Israel but we will see.

what involvement from china?

China has coose ties with Iran and Russia, funancially especially.

[Verbal]

i thought you were going to claim china might enter the war. or at least be less vague about the financial connections

[Noyka]

Oh no, China is not that stupid.

[Verbal]

i am though

[zim]

i am though

[deckard]

i dont understand this enough to be competant to comment on it

[Verbal]

iraq are now involved?

at least an "iran-backed" militia group in iraq

so there are "iran-backed" groups in palestine, yemen, lebanon, and iraq.. where else?

[jawn galliano]

can't imagine why anyone in the region would resist the benevolent civilizing caress of the anglo-western empire, it has a wonderful track record. they're probably just a bunch of inveterate terrorists and lunatic jihadis

[Verbal]

"anyone that can rein in the US-israel beast can and should for the good of humanity" implies in particular support for hamas. no? the existence of some people in the region who arent lunatic jihadis doesnt change that

[jawn galliano]

yes it does. it's unfortunate that they haven't listened to enough sam harris podcasts to gain your approval, but that's just how it is. perhaps if we hadn't spent the last 80 years displacing, imprisoning, slaughtering and all-around dehumanizing the entire palestinian population, they'd all have copies of the god delusion qualify as people in the eyes of dead-eyed rationalist dullards. but again, that's not the world we inhabit.

[Verbal]

you really let your imagination get the better of you there. i was clarifying if you support hamas

[jawn galliano]

and i'm saying that yes i do, as in 'yes, it does imply in particular support for hamas'

[Abzu]

Stormy with the absolute correctest take

[Verbal]

how do you justify this

[jawn galliano]

the question you should be starting with is 'how can i justify imposing requirements on a brutally oppressed people before they can qualify as human beings?'

don't worry about me hoss, you've got bigger fish to fry

[Verbal]

well im all ears if you feel like justifying supporting hamas

[jawn galliano]

it's not remotely complicated, but i can't raise your consciousness for you brotherman. again, who are you to dictate the terms of resistance? do you think the genocide campaign our governments have been waging for generations is some kind of debate where the most rational idea wins?

[Verbal]

you are the one saying you support hamas. im just asking you why. if you dont feel like explaining, then fine