WWIII Watch Party
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why cant we all just get along
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vahmpy is correct. oil production might be down, but the US isn't exporting oil to europe, but rather liquefied natural gas. curiously enough, a day before the pipeline attack, IOGP/API released a big glossy study about new opportunities in the european gas market with the assumption of a full russian supply cut-off: https://iogpeurope.org/wp-content/uploa ... supply.pdf
nordstream sabotage was certainly done at the behest of the US, hard to say who did the deed though. english press (and i imagine a lot of the various euro outlets as well though i haven't had time to check) is trying to push a russia theory which is just utter nonsense. it cuts against russian interests, material, strategic, etc. in such glaringly obvious ways that it's honestly embarrassing to see ostensibly serious people trying to advance it with a straight face. it's alex jones level dreck, but without the entertaining spectacle to dress it up.
this basically kills german industry, probably most of the rest of europe for that matter. perhaps US leadership thinks it can absorb all the stranded engineering and manufacturing expertise as part of a long-term reindustrialization plan?
nordstream sabotage was certainly done at the behest of the US, hard to say who did the deed though. english press (and i imagine a lot of the various euro outlets as well though i haven't had time to check) is trying to push a russia theory which is just utter nonsense. it cuts against russian interests, material, strategic, etc. in such glaringly obvious ways that it's honestly embarrassing to see ostensibly serious people trying to advance it with a straight face. it's alex jones level dreck, but without the entertaining spectacle to dress it up.
this basically kills german industry, probably most of the rest of europe for that matter. perhaps US leadership thinks it can absorb all the stranded engineering and manufacturing expertise as part of a long-term reindustrialization plan?
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I just hope we were not stupid enough to do it or order it. Im not saying its impossible i def do not buy the Russia theory. Poland and ither eu partners could benefit as well while us is the prime suspect we are not the only ones.
I just feel physically ill over everything currently happening.
I just feel physically ill over everything currently happening.
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poland is a definite candidate, and i have read one account based on air & sea traffic that put forth a plausible scenario for the US to have been directly involved in the operation. if it wasn't the US acting directly though, whoever was responsible would not have done so without the US' blessing. european military-political leadership knows who runs the show - hell, even italy's new fascist PM has made a big show of genuflecting before zelensky in the media.
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Giorgia's demonising by MSM already started, calling her extreme far right, etc. Disgusting to see. She is the middle finger in the face of the EU and WEF. She is conservative and I don't agree with her on certain topics like abortion and gay marriage.
But be careful what the media is saying about her.
Thanks for chiming in btw.
But be careful what the media is saying about her.
Thanks for chiming in btw.
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the establishment have their own cynical reasons for demonizing right-wingers like meloni, but largely it is not grounded in ideological differences. make no mistake however, this is an inter-elite conflict, and one that you cannot benefit from taking a side in. whatever bluster the right-wingers can offer against the current ruling order, their program will not fare any better in terms of offering a better world. they must also be opposed absolutely, there is no gay man's telescope of opportunity to exploit should they seize power.
as an italian right-winger, she is a product of the factions who committed all of the terrorist bombings during the years of lead. those are the kinds of people she represents, that is the set that propelled her to power.
as an italian right-winger, she is a product of the factions who committed all of the terrorist bombings during the years of lead. those are the kinds of people she represents, that is the set that propelled her to power.
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Interesting. I'll do more backgound checks on her.
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Come on guys, there are people dying. In that sense conspiracy theories are rude. It's russian soldiers in Ukraine. They can go home and problem solved. Also it's hard to see stupidity on the MABB, facebook style not flattering
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Ninny, stop believing everything the mainstream media is feeding you. There are two sides of this story, as always.
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What if there's 3 sides
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Indeed. 3 or even more.
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Dodecahedron
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So uh poland potentially accidentally bombed?
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some speculation the identifiable remains are from an s300, likely ukrainian based on the location. possibly/probably not the only thing to detonate though, could've been taking down an errant missile? official narrative hasn't started to congeal yet.
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Im just very nervous this is going to spiral
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looks like this was confirmed to be a ukraine accident and not russia
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sooner or later, yes.
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what are you confirming
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Ya’ll think Russia will actually nuke london?
I hope the US doesn't actually send patriot missiles to ukraine.
I hope the US doesn't actually send patriot missiles to ukraine.
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Yes they threatened to bomb london because washington is too far away if yge us supplies ukraine with patriot missiles.
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Im more wortied about oatriot missiles in Ukraine than a Russian nuke hitting London.
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nobody is going to nuke london
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things were so much simpler when all people had to worry about was economic ideology and nuclear weapons
more metal
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i cant remember the last time i watched the news, but there is no way anyone is dropping a nuclear bomb on london
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honestly, i would feel triggered if someone did
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i would consider it an act of literal violence
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I am more worried about potential patriot missiles aka more escalation.
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i am hoping for the best and continuing not paying attention
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There isn't going to be a world war. More likely there will be a second offensive from the Russians in January, to take back some of the territory the Ukrainians recently took, and inflict enough losses for a forced resumption of peace negotiations.
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why hasnt someone killed putin