What did you expect from ILLUD?

Spirits of the Deep Waters · 11 Jun 2011, 16:46

After hearing the live verison of Nevermore, I was very psyched. I ignored all these (What I thought was) "rumours" about the album being a techno album. I expected something in the vein of Angelcorpse Of Lucifer And Lightning album. I had the feeling that this album would be a total Covenant/Domination kind of album.

zim · Post by **zim** » 11 Jun 2011, 17:14

when i first heard nevermore i thought I would be a continuation of heretic with domination'ish vocals

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 11 Jun 2011, 17:18

i didn't have any real expectations. i was, however, prepared for something that had integrity

Uni777 · Post by **Uni777** » 11 Jun 2011, 17:23

Compact songs with heretic type riffing sounding angry/dark. For the techno stuff i hoped fore agressive riffing like stricken arise mixed with over the top techno drums. I really was excited and looking forward to it.

Instead we got Morbid Angel Light, Morbid Decaf, Lo carb Angel......

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 11 Jun 2011, 17:24

morbid angel decaf

xpocalypse · Post by **xpocalypse** » 11 Jun 2011, 18:13

Even before hearing Nevermore I was expecting a mediocre album. With every dose of new material my fears were more and more intesne... after hearing the samples I was sure this album is going to such. When I finally hear it, it doesn't seem that bad as I though.... still I believe it to be mediocre, but need to give it more listens to be sure.

Silently, I had hopes hopes for continuation of Gateways, avalanche of massive riffage, plenty ultimate soloing and some cool Trey wocals - but this was impossible to happen, and it didn't

Cybermetatron · Post by **Cybermetatron** » 11 Jun 2011, 19:58

To be honest, I wasn't expecting much from this album, even the first time it was announced before being delayed again and again ! I just hoped it would be a classic album with classic Morbid Angel songs and lots of Trey's solo and so on...David being back in the band wasn't good news for me and his performances on stage since his return didn't convince me at all and I thought the new album would just follow domination's mundane path, album I like the least !

Then, when I heard nevermore for the first time live around 2008, I started to be anxious about the album: I founded this song pretty good, but it sounded like a B-side song from heretic sessions and the album would be a sub-heretic ! 5 years to get a new song that wasn't sounding new at all nor breaking boundaries !Thoughts confirmed when I heard existo this year !

In a way, I was prepared to be disappointed by Illud, especially when the songs titles were revealed.

Now I have to say after several listenings that this album is not that bad, as some have said on other topics, it's really catchy and I can't get my head rid of the songs ! Half of the album is pretty good, not excellent but good enough to become classic songs: I like the death-metal songs, and shame on me but I kinda like i am morbid and destructos vs earth. But I really can't get into intro, too extreme, radikult and mea culpa. And the weakest point of the whole album is the vocals imo !!

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 11 Jun 2011, 20:17

[quote name="Uni"]Compact songs with heretic type riffing sounding angry/dark. For the techno stuff i hoped fore agressive riffing like stricken arise mixed with over the top techno drums. I really was excited and looking forward to it.

Instead we got Morbid Angel Light, Morbid Decaf, Lo carb Angel......

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^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 11 Jun 2011, 23:07

I think I'm probably the only person here who wasn't expecting much from the get-go because of my hatred for David Vincent

Obese · Post by **Obese** » 12 Jun 2011, 00:42

Long time lurker, first time poster

When I first heard about the electronic/industrial/techno elements that were going to be on the album I figured it was just going to be a few seperate/interlude type tunes like Trooper scattered amongst the Death Metal ones, didn't think they would be actual full songs with vocals

, and when Nevermore surfaced a few years back I genuinely liked it, thought it was a nice continuation of the heretic style and that the rest of the album would follow suit.

rhino · Post by **rhino** » 12 Jun 2011, 00:50

hey obese, start posting in other forums here too and have some fun

Hallucinating dead · Post by **Hallucinating dead** » 12 Jun 2011, 00:53

I never cared, because is was mesmerized by the older albums, or maybe because I am just a new fan

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 12 Jun 2011, 01:04

I am not a true fan so what I think does not matter.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 12 Jun 2011, 05:05

[quote name="rhino"]hey obese, start posting in other forums here too and have some fun

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Ninny · Post by **Ninny** » 12 Jun 2011, 05:19

[quote name="zim"]when i first heard nevermore i thought I would be a continuation of heretic with domination'ish vocals[/quote]

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 12 Jun 2011, 06:06

For me, Mea Culpa is the best of the tehcno infused/inspired songs. I feel it's had the perfect blend of styles, while still being fruital and off the wall. Too Extreme and Destructos just drone on too long with too many dead & soft spots. Plus the songs titles are as goofy as can be.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 12 Jun 2011, 09:17

Olden Polynice · Post by **Olden Polynice** » 12 Jun 2011, 10:28

Hi,Herbert.

Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man · 12 Jun 2011, 10:30

I was expecting boring, 2nd rate antiquated death metal.

They could've stopped at Nevermore and Existo Vulgore and made a respectably shitty album. But no.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 12 Jun 2011, 10:31

[quote name="mabb_"]Hi,Herbert.[/quote]

Incorrect. I am just noting this fact.

"Herbert" uses the same fb avatar that Tam once used though.

Olden Polynice · Post by **Olden Polynice** » 12 Jun 2011, 10:35

Was at Obese.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 12 Jun 2011, 10:47

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 12 Jun 2011, 18:15

[quote name=";,,;"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hi,Herbert.[/quote]

Incorrect. I am just noting this fact.

"Herbert" uses the same fb avatar that Tam once used though.[/quote]

What is?

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 12 Jun 2011, 18:17

Herbert West from the T-shirt thing?

Yeah, I have never seen that strange picture ever.

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 13 Jun 2011, 08:37

after all the techno talk and hearing Nevermore, i was expecting:

* Nevermore styled (standard) MA death metal.

* techno tracks on their own (ala the synth and piano tracks on past albums)

* maybe some normal MA death metal that had some techno synths buried in the mix, and maybe with some gabba kick, but not like how it turned out

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 13 Jun 2011, 10:48

[quote name="COCK BALLS PUBE TITS"]Herbert West from the T-shirt thing?

Yeah, I have never seen that strange picture ever.[/quote]

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 13 Jun 2011, 10:51

Woops - looks like Mr. West changed it. Now my comments make less sense than usual.

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 13 Jun 2011, 17:33

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 13 Jun 2011, 18:16

what is this herbert bullshit you are going on about

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 14 Jun 2011, 03:11

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 14 Jun 2011, 03:13

I expected it to arrive in one (or any) piece.

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 14 Jun 2011, 06:35

[quote name=";,,;"]I expected it to arrive in one (or any) piece.[/quote]

Gmajnar · Post by **Gmajnar** » 14 Jun 2011, 15:16

I didn't expect annything, and I got EVERYTHING with ILLUD!

I never expect nothing from Morbid Angel, I allways just wish, that they will do what they feel and like - and I was rewarded with every album so far

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Jun 2011, 16:37

you're really sad.

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 14 Jun 2011, 16:40

Is this hard-on bearer WTSL?

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Jun 2011, 16:44

not according to ip check but i feel really sorry for him whereas wtsl was just dull

Tea · Post by **Tea** » 14 Jun 2011, 17:53

[quote name="Gmajnar"]I didn't expect annything, and I got EVERYTHING with ILLUD!

I never expect nothing from Morbid Angel, I allways just wish, that they will do what they feel and like - and I was rewarded with every album so far

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So tell me... Is David's bad boy 6 inches or 8 inches? I've always wanted to know but I haven't had the opportunity to see yet

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 14 Jun 2011, 18:10

Just... wow.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Jun 2011, 19:01

[quote name="Tea"]
[quote name="Gmajnar"]I didn't expect annything, and I got EVERYTHING with ILLUD!

I never expect nothing from Morbid Angel, I allways just wish, that they will do what they feel and like - and I was rewarded with every album so far

[/quote]

So tell me... Is David's bad boy 6 inches or 8 inches? I've always wanted to know but I haven't had the opportunity to see yet[/quote]

that splendid mate of mine's a foot long if it's an inch. dont even play

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 14 Jun 2011, 22:02

For a long time, mainly based on the type of pictures that started going up on the MA website along with some of the backgrounds on Trey's MySpace I felt they were going to go back towards a Formulas type feel and sound. Long playing songs, hymns to the Ancient Ones. I actually though the may, or would it have been accurate to attribute the lyrics really to Steve, anyway, I thought he may have gone more towards the Vedas with some of the lyrics. It seemed that Vadimon's artwork was in the style of the ancient Hindu deities, with some Sumerian/Persian throwbacks.

I did not expect at all what we have been given, this is true. But the way that F- H were going, I felt that was the strain it was going to continue to progress in. I admit I was worried about David's return, not anything against him, but mainly with how the lyrical change would be. I mean literally you went from night and day to fire and ice, so to speak. I did not , and still don't which is cool, understand why Steve left and David returned to begin with but that is all past and not relevant for 2011 anyway.

Personally I still hope to see a sound reminiscent of Formulas lyrical content, the brutality of a 3 piece that Heretic gave me, and the sluggishness of the Gateways sound. Heretic was recorded as a 3 piece if memory serves correctly and I want to say this is the only album that was recorded as a 3 piece.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 14 Jun 2011, 22:02

Now what does our lord and master think about all this?

claudeofemptiness · Post by **claudeofemptiness** » 14 Jun 2011, 22:13

i really expected a more cohesive, better recorded behemoth of a fucking album that brought the ideas of gateways and heretic to full fruition, with david vincent vocalizing like his life and artistic integrity depended on it.

Uros · Post by **Uros** » 15 Jun 2011, 04:01

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]if memory serves correctly and I want to say this is the only album that was recorded as a 3 piece.[/quote]

You forgot Covenant, duder

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 15 Jun 2011, 04:59

[quote name="Uros"]
[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]if memory serves correctly and I want to say this is the only album that was recorded as a 3 piece.[/quote]

You forgot Covenant, duder

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Rutan was just touring guitarist and not recording member during that one right? My golly my memory is going away so fast . . . . . . what were we talking about

RitesOfPossession · Post by **RitesOfPossession** » 15 Jun 2011, 16:05

What about Formulas? The lineup for that was Trey, Steve and Pete.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 15 Jun 2011, 20:13

Covenant

Formulas

Heretic

Every other album, beginning with Covenant, was a three piece. I bet J will be, as well.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 15 Jun 2011, 22:17

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]Now what does our lord and master think about all this?[/quote]

page2 has nothing to say on the matter, because it doesnt waste its time with nonsense

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 18 Jun 2011, 10:13

[quote name=";,,;"]

Covenant

Formulas

Heretic

Every other album, beginning with Covenant, was a three piece. I bet J will be, as well.[/quote]

if they get that far...

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 18 Jun 2011, 10:33

[quote name="FUKKET"]
[quote name=";,,;"]

Covenant

Formulas

Heretic

Every other album, beginning with Covenant, was a three piece. I bet J will be, as well.[/quote]

if they get that far...

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Praise of Death · Post by **Praise of Death** » 20 Jun 2011, 05:59

[quote name="powered by pork"]I was expecting boring, 2nd rate antiquated death metal.

They could've stopped at Nevermore and Existo Vulgore and made a respectably shitty album. But no.[/quote]

^^^ This!