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We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:05
by Uros
MORBID ANGEL's new album "Illud Divinum Insanus" will be out in less than a week! Needless to say this release is highly anticipated by fans, journalists and musicians alike, so we sent the album to some of the famous names in Metal and asked them what they thought of the seminally influential Extreme Metal act's new opus. Here goes:
"The new Morbid Angel album will cause 3rd World War. After June 7th, the extreme metal scene is never gonna be the same again... And I already can't wait the moment I'll be sitting on my sofa listening to "Illus Divinum Insanus" while the world burns! Ha!" - Nergal, BEHEMOTH
"No other band in the entire Extreme Metal genre but Morbid Angel would have ever dared to make 'Illud Divinum Insanus'. There are going to be quite a few unimaginative underground purists who think they know better what kind of album Morbid Angel should or should not be putting out, but with 'Illud Divinum Insanus' Trey and David prove that they answer to no one but themselves. It is an incredibly well written, performed, recorded and produced record." - Karl Sanders, NILE
"One of the best death metal releases since their last album with Vincent. I'm not too much into the techno bits but I am a dude who will appreciate and respect bands doing new things, progressing... So it's all good. Vincent's vocals of course are still as good as they come. And the riffs are definitely there, Trey always delivers. New drummer is killer too!" - Mikael Akerfeldt, OPETH
"The ultimate voice of death metal is back, as hellish as ever!" - Mikael Stanne, DARK TRANQUILLITY
"Glad to see Morbid Angel are back! We had our share of criticism when we first incorporated electronic elements in our sound and we know it takes courage and passion to follow one's own stream of inspiration. This time the guitar work is more impressive than ever and those 11 songs are a real 'tour de force'. With this new album they're not afraid to take the hit from the more conservative audience but that's what it means to be extreme!" - Vorph, SAMAEL
"Innovation, wits and a feral 'no compromise' attitude is what brands the greatest of bands. 'Illud Divinum Insanus' is all that and a leap further! Hail Morbid Angel!" - Rune "Blasphemer" Eriksen, AVA INFERI, ex MAYHEM
"Morbid Angel still prove they can continue their legacy and deliver their madness with a skill so elite. The metal scene has no choice but to give back the crown to the undisputable kings of death metal! MORBID! MORBID! MORBID!" - Anders 'Blakkheim' Nyström, KATATONIA
"This is Morbid Angel the way I've always loved them: unpredictable, forward-thinking, different and extreme. In one word: unique. If you hoped for a dull repeat of the past, look elsewhere. If you want something modern and daring, 'Illud Divinum Insanus' is the masterpiece only Morbid Angel could dream up. Kick-ass!" - Dirk Verbeuren, SOILWORK
"I'd say it was definitely worth the wait. M.A. do their own thing as always and they are good at it. Vincent growls like a horny moose (meant in a positive way) Trey's weird riffing and songwriting is there and Tim Yeung is simply amazing. Maybe a couple of less appealing experimental tracks but over all true, groovy, crushing, heavy and fast as it should be. Rock on!" - Ola Lindgren, GRAVE
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Hell yeah, all of a sudden I like this album A LOT.

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:08
by ^_____________^
I respectfully disagree with all of those guys and will continue in my undying love for Darkthrone and bands like Deathhammer

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:12
by Anjel
Too bad I can't agree with them. I honestly think they are spewing bullshit. They know this ain't even close to the older stuff.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:13
by droidspawn
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:17
by vO)))id
Wow I think we WERE wrong. If those guys say it's good, then it MUST be good! How ignorant of us!
It's sad to see they've come to the point that they need quotes from these kind of people...
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:18
by LAVAGOD
Im happy that atleast its not a album filled with "chug chug cha cha chug chwa chug chwa" with the exception of nevermore and existo yet even those songs are still very fruital and im glad that they have copletely evolved and still have creativity to write and produce chaotic shit like this. sure they've evolved into something that not all of us like but I think that the reason why all those great interviews came from such classic legendary guys is because morbid has always stayed true to the fact that they will play what "THEY" like and i think those guys like it and respect their creativity..as morbid angel always has been and it may inspire hundreds and thousands of more band to form and create music just as altars, blessed and the rest!
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:21
by Uros
You may claim that this is all lava that they are creating, and it is your right. For me, at the moment, this is just one big yellow stream of piss, nothing more.
The material is so disjointed, it's ridiculous. Bunch of stuff lumped together.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:22
by jawn galliano
how much do you think SoM paid out to each of those dudes for those blurbs
$20? $50? $5?
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:23
by vO)))id
Another thing I get sick of is this:
[quote name="Radikult"]
"This is Morbid Angel the way I've always loved them: unpredictable, forward-thinking, different and extreme. In one word: unique. If you hoped for a dull repeat of the past, look elsewhere. If you want something modern and daring, 'Illud Divinum Insanus' is the masterpiece only Morbid Angel could dream up. Kick-ass!" - Dirk Verbeuren, SOILWORK:[/quote]
First of all; it's NOT forward-thinking. It IS predictable because the "hardcore" songs consist of almost only the same boring riff that repeats itself for 7+ minutes, if you can even call that a riff! (Just listen to Radikult; the middle part goes to a more standart metal groove with a solo that's alright, but it's COMPLETELY taken out of that songs context. It's totally misplaced!)
Second; People saying "If you hoped for a dull
repeat of the past..." etc, are full of shit. They forget that there is an enormous grey area between
something new and
something that is already done.

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:26
by Mesarthim
yeah somehow I doubt a lot of this was truthful and more along the lines of "i'll put in a good word"
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:31
by Jackson
Kissing ass...
Typical stuff in Media today...
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:41
by zim
i'm not sure i've ever seen death metal bands dis each other

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 05:41
by ^_____________^
Yeah, there has been a lot of cross-genre dissing that I'm aware of but I don't think any real drama has occured between death metal bands. The only drama I know about has to do with the early Norwegian black metal guys.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 05:42
by Verbal
what happened there
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 05:46
by ^_____________^
They impregnated your mother and injected her with the Gay Gene which made you a repressed gay for your whole life, too scared to tell anyone.

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 05:51
by bob_here
It's a simple case of peer ingratiation and lauding, nothing else. The scratch each other's back syndrome. Do you really think these closely knit people would speak poorly about each other's endeavors?
Especially now? I suspect most of these people are sensing the 11th hour so what else could be done!
Back in the day, it used to be colder and more detached. It was about writing aggressive and fruital artistic music and that sense of detachment pushed you (MA) to respond with the same sense of
aggression and brute through their music. This is egalitarianism at its best.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 05:58
by Verbal
[quote name="TranscendingMusic"]This is egalitarianism at its best.[/quote]
how many people here know what that means
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 06:26
by ^_____________^
I don't think its an example of egalitarianism because we are talking about the result of something rather than the potential, when I think of egalitarianism I think that everyone is equally capable of making something great or crap depending on how they apply themselves to the task at hand. Metallica wrote both Kill 'Em All and St. Anger. Morbid Angel wrote both Altars of Madness and Illud Divinum Insanus. Both bands are equally capable of producing quality albums but that doesn't mean every album they release will be quality because they are also capable of producing something that is shit.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 06:36
by bob_here
[quote name="^_____________^"]I don't think its an example of egalitarianism because we are talking about the result of something rather than the potential, when I think of egalitarianism I think that everyone is equally capable of making something great or crap depending on how they apply themselves to the task at hand. Metallica wrote both Kill 'Em All and St. Anger. Morbid Angel wrote both Altars of Madness and Illud Divinum Insanus. Both bands are equally capable of producing quality albums but that doesn't mean every album they release will be quality because they are also capable of producing something that is shit.[/quote]
Sure but that's the flaw isn't it? To think that anybody, even a person who has done it before, can potentially create great music at any given point in time. Then to assume that that person or band who has done it before has automatically done it again is also I think a mistake. We could say it's a result of an egalitarianism type of thinking. May be it's even better to say that these people are making claims and appealing to their authority instead. In general the atmosphere is too relaxed; too happy-go-lucky. Anything good comes from pressure and overcoming and this album sounds like the antithesis to that: just lazy.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 07:00
by ^_____________^
Exactly, and under the parameters I stated above I think it would be alright to dismiss this as a lazy album and thus Morbid Angel not living up to their full potential. If these people are actually genuine in their statements, then they are either apathetic towards the quality of this album and want to give MA good press or they actually think it's good, and both are possible as not everyone would agree on whether it's a good album or not. I think however it would be very difficult to argue that this album is not lazy in comparison to their earlier works.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 07:13
by bob_here
Yea the "earlier works" aspect of this is so important as it precludes the opinion argument that I noticed some new guys here were trying to push. And as I said my argument was never about opinion.
One only needs to question whether or not this is MA (as we know them) by listening, taking in the vibe, the lyrics and so forth. Without interjecting any opinion, right? So, I'm with you on this idea: "If these people are actually genuine in their statements, then they are apathetic towards the quality of this album and want to give MA good press ". Because they are doing away with any marker that gives rise to identifying MA. If there is nothing to identify then you are not loving anything but everything so long as it has a name and stigma attached to it. That's absurd just as these mini reviews are. If
it's the case that they actually like it then they too have lost the sense of discerning identity in what they established as MA. Either way they put themselves in a very inimical position for their own reputations and image with their remarks. They just don't realize that there will be those who will dissect these types of comments in their transparency. BUT - they're doing their peers a deed, ok, I get it. Doesn't make any of it more true than what the fans are saying.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 07:15
by ^_____________^
Yes. In the end I think this whole thing is a rather hollow enterprise, and the shell is composed of nothing but wasted talent and apathy.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 08:30
by Abzu
[quote name="Grimmigheid"]Another thing I get sick of is this:
[quote name="Radikult"]
"This is Morbid Angel the way I've always loved them: unpredictable, forward-thinking, different and extreme. In one word: unique. If you hoped for a dull repeat of the past, look elsewhere. If you want something modern and daring, 'Illud Divinum Insanus' is the masterpiece only Morbid Angel could dream up. Kick-ass!" - Dirk Verbeuren, SOILWORK:[/quote]
First of all; it's NOT forward-thinking. It IS predictable because the "hardcore" songs consist of almost only the same boring riff that repeats itself for 7+ minutes, if you can even call that a riff! (Just listen to Radikult; the middle part goes to a more standart metal groove with a solo that's alright, but it's COMPLETELY taken out of that songs context. It's totally misplaced!)
Second; People saying "If you hoped for a dull
repeat of the past..." etc, are full of shit. They forget that there is an enormous grey area between
something new and
something that is already done.

[/quote]
When Radikult went into that nifty middle section with the lead, could you almost hear what could have been written around it instead, in your mind? I could! But then it went back to the blech and I was sad.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 08:45
by Olden Polynice
I hate to say it but..at the end of the day it's just an album.There's no point getting all worked up about it.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:00
by bob_here
BLASPHEME!
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:35
by Olden Polynice
Taking the album more seriously than the band themselves is alittle sad.I mean no offence at all.I'm a huge fanboy but ya gotta accept it is what it is.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:37
by bob_here
Some of us take our art very seriously.
And some of us take our eggs scrambled.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:41
by Olden Polynice
I'm not saying this album is good
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:41
by Abzu
[quote name="mabb_"]I hate to say it but..at the end of the day it's just an album.There's no point getting all worked up about it.[/quote]
Oh just bugger off, will you?
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 09:42
by Uros
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 10:03
by Olden Polynice
[quote name=";,,;"]
[quote name="mabb_"]I hate to say it but..at the end of the day it's just an album.There's no point getting all worked up about it.[/quote]
Oh just bugger off, will you?[/quote]
You mad
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 10:12
by Abzu
[quote name="mabb_"]
[quote name=";,,;"]
[quote name="mabb_"]I hate to say it but..at the end of the day it's just an album.There's no point getting all worked up about it.[/quote]
Oh just bugger off, will you?[/quote]
You mad[/quote]
No, it's just a ridiculous statement.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 10:43
by ^_____________^
[quote name="TranscendingMusic"]Some of us take our art very seriously.
And some of us take our eggs scrambled.[/quote]
"He who has science and has art religion too has he. He who has not science and has not art religious let him be."
[quote name="Uros"]

[/quote]
Fucking

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 17:02
by agony bagony
[quote name="Uros"]MORBID ANGEL's new album "Illud Divinum Insanus" will be out in less than a week! Needless to say this release is highly anticipated by fans, journalists and musicians alike, so we sent the album to some of the famous names in Metal and asked them what they thought of the seminally influential Extreme Metal act's new opus. Here goes:
"The new Morbid Angel album will cause 3rd World War. After June 7th, the extreme metal scene is never gonna be the same again... And I already can't wait the moment I'll be sitting on my sofa listening to "Illus Divinum Insanus" while the world burns! Ha!" - Nergal, BEHEMOTH
"No other band in the entire Extreme Metal genre but Morbid Angel would have ever dared to make 'Illud Divinum Insanus'. There are going to be quite a few unimaginative underground purists who think they know better what kind of album Morbid Angel should or should not be putting out, but with 'Illud Divinum Insanus' Trey and David prove that they answer to no one but themselves. It is an incredibly well written, performed, recorded and produced record." - Karl Sanders, NILE
"One of the best death metal releases since their last album with Vincent. I'm not too much into the techno bits but I am a dude who will appreciate and respect bands doing new things, progressing... So it's all good. Vincent's vocals of course are still as good as they come. And the riffs are definitely there, Trey always delivers. New drummer is killer too!" - Mikael Akerfeldt, OPETH
"The ultimate voice of death metal is back, as hellish as ever!" - Mikael Stanne, DARK TRANQUILLITY
"Glad to see Morbid Angel are back! We had our share of criticism when we first incorporated electronic elements in our sound and we know it takes courage and passion to follow one's own stream of inspiration. This time the guitar work is more impressive than ever and those 11 songs are a real 'tour de force'. With this new album they're not afraid to take the hit from the more conservative audience but that's what it means to be extreme!" - Vorph, SAMAEL
"Innovation, wits and a feral 'no compromise' attitude is what brands the greatest of bands. 'Illud Divinum Insanus' is all that and a leap further! Hail Morbid Angel!" - Rune "Blasphemer" Eriksen, AVA INFERI, ex MAYHEM
"Morbid Angel still prove they can continue their legacy and deliver their madness with a skill so elite. The metal scene has no choice but to give back the crown to the undisputable kings of death metal! MORBID! MORBID! MORBID!" - Anders 'Blakkheim' Nyström, KATATONIA
"This is Morbid Angel the way I've always loved them: unpredictable, forward-thinking, different and extreme. In one word: unique. If you hoped for a dull repeat of the past, look elsewhere. If you want something modern and daring, 'Illud Divinum Insanus' is the masterpiece only Morbid Angel could dream up. Kick-ass!" - Dirk Verbeuren, SOILWORK
"I'd say it was definitely worth the wait. M.A. do their own thing as always and they are good at it. Vincent growls like a horny moose (meant in a positive way) Trey's weird riffing and songwriting is there and Tim Yeung is simply amazing. Maybe a couple of less appealing experimental tracks but over all true, groovy, crushing, heavy and fast as it should be. Rock on!" - Ola Lindgren, GRAVE [/quote]
this is called "paying tribute" and it is annoying
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 17:50
by Svartmetall
[quote name="Uros"]

[/quote]
They forgot to include the most important endorsement...
Nathan Explosion: "It's fucking fruital, man. And techno. It's fucking techno too. They're making fruital techno metal. But more. More techno-er and more brutaller than the most fruital techno thing ever...TIMES INFINITY!!!"

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 20:09
by God of Perverse
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:43
by Hugo.
Altars

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:47
by agony bagony
[quote name="Hugo"]Altars

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Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:49
by Tea
[quote name="evil poop"]
[quote name="Hugo"]Formulas

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Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:54
by agony bagony
altars >
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:54
by agony bagony
and you know who agrees, is our lord and master
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 22:44
by Mesarthim
[quote name="Tea!"]
[quote name="evil poop"]
[quote name="Hugo"]Formulas

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Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 23:45
by ^_____________^
[quote name="Tea!"]
[quote name="evil poop"]
[quote name="Hugo"]Formulas

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Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 23:50
by droidspawn
[quote name="^_____________^"]
[quote name="Tea!"]
[quote name="evil poop"]
[quote name="Hugo"]A-H

[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 01:23
by Hugo.
[quote name="^_____________^"]
[quote name="Tea!"]
[quote name="evil poop"]
[quote name="Hugo"]Formulas

[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 03:20
by Mutilator
These quotes are from musicians who leave the possibillity open of getting a slot as an opening act for MA.
We will see who's correct when the album sales fail miserably.

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 04:34
by Abzu
[quote name="Mutilator"]These quotes are from musicians who leave the possibillity open of getting a slot as an opening act for MA.
We will see who's correct when the album sales fail mis-er-a-bly.

[/quote]
Fixed.
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 04:37
by M.Bison
Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 01:47
by Mutilator
I'm glad my intended pun didn't go unnoticed

Re: We were WRONG all the way, this is the truth
Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 02:06
by darkreignofset
its all speculation..... Even if the album is Good or utter Crap Morbid Angel will Still be the Greatest Death Metal Band Of All Time at the end of the day! To the Victor The Spoils