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Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 03:33
by Love of Lava
... a young god came down the olymp in the beginning of the 80's and sad something like:
[youtube]wvGQ9jzTbB0[/youtube]
and
[youtube]KGDJx8VGc-4[/youtube]
and
[youtube]ODGBlP9JqxY[/youtube]
..........
andsome years later in our little story the young god became the legendary arpeggio pudge...

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 04:26
by TamPron
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 06:21
by Love of Lava
ey lowbrow no sleepin in here

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 14:34
by Spirits of the Deep Waters
He IS awesome. He was the first "shredder" ever. He debuted in 1984, after that everything happened. Paul Gilbert etc..
AND he is swedens only real rockstar
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 15:03
by Meat Engine
I believe you forgot the folks from Europe.
[youtube]9jK-NcRmVcw[/youtube]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 15:25
by shadowalk
Once U-pon The Cr

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 18:06
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
I love Yngwie Malmsteen
[youtube]n3-IfO4I2kk[/youtube]

classic
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 01:04
by Love of Lava
i want a yngwie-kick-emoticon !
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 02:09
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[youtube]6ISosUk4rdI[/youtube]
this is one of my fav piece. I can play it a bit

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 03:33
by Love of Lava
yeah whole trilogy is awesome just watched the 85 liv in japan tape yesterday with a fellating lover
you can play this a bit ? how much is a bit ???

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 04:10
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
not as him of course

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 04:26
by Love of Lava
ok it's hard but you have to learn this by rote cuz of this million notes goin on in each scale, mode ....
sometimes i play some of his arpeggio/sweep stuff for finger practise but not exactly this cleanly and nice like the master , no way
another classic:
[youtube]sj3ec2cCaJw[/youtube]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 05:38
by captain twat. IV.
Hammett>Yngwie
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 11:54
by jawn galliano
[quote name="Maze"]He was the first "shredder" ever.[/quote]
no, no, no, wrong! mclaughlin was shredding in like 1971. fuck, there's plenty of composers dating back to the 17th century who easily fit the bill. difference is, those people also actually made some interesting and worthwhile music.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 14:43
by Love of Lava
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote]
well thats just ridiculous

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 02 Sep 2010, 18:11
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[quote name="Love of Lava"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote]
well thats just ridiculous

[/quote]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 01:49
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[youtube]Bn_u2lNqrtw[/youtube]
I was in that crowd
gods of metal 2008 = pure win
morbid angel
yngwie
judas priest

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 03:40
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Yngwie nowadays lost the power and ability of playing of when he was young, he got old and I think the incidents he had (he had different car incidents that also involved hands) ruined a bit his playing. He could be repetitive ok....but I am sure about one thing: in mixing classical music and heavy metal he was the master and the first to do it in that way. Paul Gilbert himself was a Malmsteen fan when he started. This means something......
Anyway I 'm not trying to be his advocate, but fuck, he wasn't/isn't a fool and I don't think he's overrated.
[youtube]eK0rvReE-4c[/youtube]
classic
e.dit:
yeah Van Halen came first. But I think Eddie and Yngwie are 2 great guitarists with a different style. Comparison is wrong.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 07:00
by Shredlord
[quote name="Maze"]HHe was the first "shredder" ever. [/quote]
Oh please. Ritchie Blackmore was shredding before this rip-off artist was ever born. He owes his licks, outfits, poses, scalloped guitars, and amps to Ritchie.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 07:30
by Love of Lava
yayayay........ we know.. and Ricky King is Blackmore for the poor ...bla bal
nauw srlsly yngwie transfomed himself into a arpeggio donut and he wasn't the first shredder but he layd down the headstone for all that neoclassical shit on strat and back in 84 he was like a god (he actually did a demo in 78 with some really hard shit and he was only 15) ..so foget bout it
van halen had totally different style and im a actually a bigger fan of his stuff than yngwies ..but you cant compare this...
there are lots of good guitarplayers out there ..but some just have this macigal lil thing no one can exactly explain..
van halen got it, yngwie, vai in some way, frank zappa, hendrix, trey and some more....
acctually its all about taste imo...
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 07:53
by TamPron
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 16:22
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[quote name="TAM TAM"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote][/quote]
Ehm........ NO.
Ritchie Blackmore was of course the main inspiration for Yngwie. But Yngwie amplified x 10000 times the way of Blackmore.
Blackmore is of course NOT able to play like Yngwie. But is also a normal concept that in the 70's THAT was the way of playing, and in the 80's speed and virtuosism reach its peak.
I don't know why Malmsteen is so criticized (not here, in general); but I think is just for the fact he is arrogant (but is a part of his public charachter....) Anyway he has also a lot of die hard fans.
[youtube]ZHFKV4b8iZ8[/youtube]

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 17:51
by TamPron
[quote name="TAM TAM"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote][/quote]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 03 Sep 2010, 20:42
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 01:38
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 02:38
by Shredlord
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]
Ritchie Blackmore was of course the main inspiration for Yngwie. But Yngwie amplified x 10000 times the way of Blackmore.
Blackmore is of course NOT able to play like Yngwie. But is also a normal concept that in the 70's THAT was the way of playing, and in the 80's speed and virtuosism reach its peak.
I don't know why Malmsteen is so criticized [/quote]
1) I have some bootlegs of Deep Purple from about 1970 and Rainbow in 1976--Blackmore was easily as fast but more tasteful--his entire solo was not a blur of 32nd notes, but he was certainly capable of it. (I mean an actual solo where it's just him--not a solo while the band plays.)
2) He's an arrogant asshole who's also wildly unoriginal. He has good chops, I give him that (but not on a classical guitar--he's incredibly sloppy), but he's either ripping off Blackmore, Vivaldi, or Paganini most of the time.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 02:58
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Blackmore and Malmsteen have also in common a very difficult personality

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 03:37
by Shredlord
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]Blackmore and Malmsteen have also in common a very difficult personality

[/quote]
True dat! Actually, when I met Blackmore, he was very nice. I read once that he hated journalists and purposely came off as arrogant or something just to mess with them. He and Yngwie are also perfectionists, which may add to their "difficulty."
Ritchie also had quite a wicked sense of humor and loved to play pranks. He's Lemmy telling about one of them!
[youtube]IQW_DFADO6I[/youtube]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 20:07
by Love of Lava
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 23:11
by Spirits of the Deep Waters
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]
[quote name="TAM TAM"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote][/quote]
Ehm........ NO.
Ritchie Blackmore was of course the main inspiration for Yngwie. But Yngwie amplified x 10000 times the way of Blackmore.
Blackmore is of course NOT able to play like Yngwie. But is also a normal concept that in the 70's THAT was the way of playing, and in the 80's speed and virtuosism reach its peak.
I don't know why Malmsteen is so criticized (not here, in general); but I think is just for the fact he is arrogant (but is a part of his public charachter....) Anyway he has also a lot of die hard fans.
[youtube]ZHFKV4b8iZ8[/youtube]

[/quote]
Malmsteen is techincally better than Blackmore but his songwriting is nothing compared to what Blackmore did on RISING, LONG LIVE ROCK n' ROLL, DOWN TO EARTH and DIFFICULT TO CURE. Malmsteen borrowed alot of stuff from those albums, so saying that Malmsteen was "first" with incoporating classical music into hardrock is just naive and silly. But hey, don't take it wrong. I love Yngwie Malmsteen, he is one of my favourite guitarists ever, but he owes ALOT, fucking ALOT of respect to Blackmore. Back in the days, in like 85 he dressed exactly the same, did the same moves on stage, copied the whole guitar-execution procedure from blackmore. He picked up his scalloped neck from Blackmore, he used his Mood Taurus exactly the way Blackmore did. Malmsteens 4 first albums is still awesome, but after that, everything slopped down, he started doing exactly same thing over and over again.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 23:47
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[quote name="Maze"]
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]
[quote name="TAM TAM"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote][/quote]
Ehm........ NO.
Ritchie Blackmore was of course the main inspiration for Yngwie. But Yngwie amplified x 10000 times the way of Blackmore.
Blackmore is of course NOT able to play like Yngwie. But is also a normal concept that in the 70's THAT was the way of playing, and in the 80's speed and virtuosism reach its peak.
I don't know why Malmsteen is so criticized (not here, in general); but I think is just for the fact he is arrogant (but is a part of his public charachter....) Anyway he has also a lot of die hard fans.
[youtube]ZHFKV4b8iZ8[/youtube]

[/quote]
Malmsteen is techincally better than Blackmore but his songwriting is nothing compared to what Blackmore did on RISING, LONG LIVE ROCK n' ROLL, DOWN TO EARTH and DIFFICULT TO CURE. Malmsteen borrowed alot of stuff from those albums, so saying that Malmsteen was "first" with incoporating classical music into hardrock is just naive and silly. But hey, don't take it wrong. I love Yngwie Malmsteen, he is one of my favourite guitarists ever, but he owes ALOT, fucking ALOT of respect to Blackmore. Back in the days, in like 85 he dressed exactly the same, did the same moves on stage, copied the whole guitar-execution procedure from blackmore. He picked up his scalloped neck from Blackmore, he used his Mood Taurus exactly the way Blackmore did. Malmsteens 4 first albums is still awesome, but after that, everything slopped down, he started doing exactly same thing over and over again.[/quote]
I agree in all you write. Malmsteen is not a good songwriter, his idol is Blackmore and is clear. But anyway I think that Yngwie have his own personality. I don't consider him a copy of Blackmore.
p.s. Yngwie on stage is more savage than Ritchie.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 00:55
by Shredlord
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"] Yngwie on stage is more savage than Ritchie.[/quote]
Have you seen this? (Watch the entire video--shit gets crazy at about 3:00!)
[youtube]1aQ9P4qi8uo[/youtube]
or
[youtube]2TC5trebync[/youtube]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 01:13
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
yeah yeah I know I know don't worry

I saw Blackmore's adventures on stage many times on da web

, but I saw Yngwie 2 times alive and he is probably his copy but much more exagerate

.
I want to clearify that I am a big fan of Blackmore, so my aim is not saying that Yngwie is better than him, but anyway I want to say that imo also Yngwie fucking rule. :tvrkey:
_______
drunk Yngwie is druuuuuuuuuuuuunk
[youtube]ZUGE5C3dfDQ[/youtube]

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 01:27
by Love of Lava
this guitar execution puts a hurts on ma eyz
i wouldn't smash a guitar even not if it would be a cheap one

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 01:37
by Shredlord
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]
drunk Yngwie is druuuuuuuuuuuuunk
[youtube]ZUGE5C3dfDQ[/youtube]

[/quote]
Yikes! He's not even playing it right! Ritchie uses his fingers, not his pick, to pluck the opening progression in 4ths...it sounds much different and better defined with the fingers.
And don't get me wrong: I admire Wigwam's

speed and incorporation of classical music--I just wish he were a bit more original and also didn't repeat his licks so often.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 01:53
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
I hate the fact that the man In black left rock'n roll world. A reunion with Deep Purple would be THE reunion, but I think is just a dream. Ritchie lost his mind for pussy

( Candice

)
p.s. Yngwie lack in songwriting imo and yeah, he is repetitive.
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 02:42
by Spirits of the Deep Waters
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]I hate the fact that the man In black left rock'n roll world. A reunion with Deep Purple would be THE reunion, but I think is just a dream. Ritchie lost his mind for pussy

( Candice

)
p.s. Yngwie lack in songwriting imo and yeah, he is repetitive.[/quote]
Yngwies debut album is not lacking in sonwriting, I think it's solid, the 4 first albums and Fire and Ice were intresting, but the rest is shit.
I like me some of this:
[youtube]JQc1lHC8TZI[/youtube]
Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 04:20
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Yeah Yngwie wrote also great songs, expecially in the 80's, "Rising Force","Disciples of hell","I'll see the light tonight","Liar" .... all good tracks. I like me also the last album ("perpetual flame").
________
Ritchie now:

Re: Once Upon a Time......
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 08:05
by captain twat. IV.
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]
[quote name="TAM TAM"]
[quote name="mabb_"]Hammett>Yngwie[/quote][/quote]
Ehm........ NO.
[/quote]
