lars ulrich is not a very good drummer.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 22 Apr 2011, 17:31

...but does anyone have any PROOF?

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 22 Apr 2011, 17:43

[youtube]4-PegaXlZFo[/youtube]

Anjel · Post by **Anjel** » 22 Apr 2011, 18:20

He used to be better...

[youtube]6svGXBWVMUg[/youtube]

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 22 Apr 2011, 18:27

no kidding he used to be better. i remember reading an interview with him in 1998 in which he said he didn't practice because he didn't see the point to it, drumming was just a physical thing anyway, and not as relevant to the music as the guitars.

which,

but in the 80s and early gloryhole era when you are playing 100+ shows a year i guess you don't have to "practice" as much because you're playing all the time anyway. whereas now whatever skills he once had have just deteriorated like an addict's cerebellum. those "warm ups" they do before a gig now are a joke

Hugo. · Post by **Hugo.** » 22 Apr 2011, 18:51

[quote name="Anjel"]He used to be better...

[youtube]6svGXBWVMUg[/youtube][/quote]

That drum recording was done in takes.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 22 Apr 2011, 18:53

[quote name="winburger"]
[quote name="Anjel"]He used to be better...

[youtube]6svGXBWVMUg[/youtube][/quote]

That drum recording was done in takes.[/quote]

Almost all drum recording is done in takes.

Just like any other instrument.

Uni777 · Post by **Uni777** » 22 Apr 2011, 18:59

One nice example is the way he drums Blackened nowadays.. It is a fucking disgrace. They even removed the part where the beat reverses. And go straight from a shorter solo section into the last verse and chorus.

Hugo. · Post by **Hugo.** » 22 Apr 2011, 19:00

[quote name="Void"]
[quote name="winburger"]
[quote name="Anjel"]He used to be better...

[youtube]6svGXBWVMUg[/youtube][/quote]

That drum recording was done in takes.[/quote]

Almost all drum recording is done in takes.

Just like any other instrument.[/quote]

My point was, he could never play that from start to finish perfectly. On the last tour they played it but without the double bass during the chorus. Weak.

How was my recovery there?

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 22 Apr 2011, 19:37

good

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:21

they play it now with quarter notes on the bass drum

QUARTER notes. on a single fucking bass drum

there isn't enough

in the world for that

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:27

isnt there a video of lombardo playing it

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:30

Lars Ulrich is a shit shit SHIT drummer.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:34

potential trippple negative

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:37

:tripple:

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:54

A triple negative brings it back on point.

Hugo. · Post by **Hugo.** » 22 Apr 2011, 20:55

[quote name="pulsar"]A triple negative brings it back on point.[/quote]

I see what you didnt didnt did there.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Apr 2011, 21:46

[quote name="themicrulah"][youtube]4-PegaXlZFo[/youtube][/quote]

jesus christ the drumming on that sounds like it should've been one of those 'metallica shreds' videos. i actually thought it was for the first 30 seconds or so

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 22 Apr 2011, 22:24

Liquid Metal has been hi-jacked so I have heard way more live Metallica than I have in a long time and I must agree with all the above, they just ain't the same at all. I know I am biased and miss Cliff (

R.I.P

) but it seems they have just lost their mojo but they have great talent and are genuine musicians so the shell is still there, but I think the heart left a loooooong time ago.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 22 Apr 2011, 23:04

i think there is some heart on death magnetic. hetfield sounds like he still gives a shit (even if his voice is poop in the live setting). there are plenty of tasty riffs on there, just poor production. and truly mediocre drumming

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 22 Apr 2011, 23:08

[quote name="Dusto"]i think there is some heart on death magnetic. hetfield sounds like he still gives a shit (even if his voice is poop in the live setting). there are plenty of tasty riffs on there, just poor production. and truly mediocre drumming

[/quote]

I agree. I heard Suicide and redemption and it actually made me think of Cliff and a possible return to the MOP sound so I bought the album. Not bad, not their best, but I think it was a great improvement over more recent releases. Though I will admit I enjoy Frantic from St. Anger

Hugo. · Post by **Hugo.** » 22 Apr 2011, 23:11

Death Magnetic has a lot of heart I think.

The clear weak link in the band (to my ears) Is Kirk. The drumming will always be pretty mediocre, but it's the easiest thing to get over when it comes to metallica.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 22 Apr 2011, 23:18

i think a few different things

1. kirk is way more talented and appropriate for metallica on guitar than lars is on drums. my ears are not as tuned to guitar stuffs but i don't hear kirk cutting shit out of old songs for simplicity's sake the way i have noted lars doing this for about the last fifteen years. just basic things like four bars worth of fills. or, more sinfully, double bass in pretty much any song. if there's a fast double bass roll he just doesn't even play it anymore (battery, damage, blackened, dyer's eve pretty much any of the new stuff, the quadruplet gallop in the four horsemen). the only exceptions i can find are fight fire with fire – where cutting the DB break after the solo would be stupid obvious - and the breakdown in one, which would be stupid and criminal

2. st. anger is a glorious train wreck of an album filled with a bunch of decent riffs, a whole lot of shitty ones, the cheesiest, most cornball lyrics in the world, and what-were-they-thinking-no-seriously production. the shorter songs are all better and frantic is one of the shorter-ish songs, and to me one of the listenable ones

3. suicide and redemption is serious win & very underrated.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 22 Apr 2011, 23:19

[quote name="winburger"]The clear weak link in the band (to my ears) Is Kirk.[/quote]There was a time this would have elicited a duel challenge from me, but you are right.

[quote name="Dusto"]suicide and redemption is serious win & very underrated.

[/quote]

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 23 Apr 2011, 00:47

I think James has always been underrated for his rhythm guitar playing. It's all very tight and precise.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 00:50

but james is regularly cited as a master rhythm player

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 23 Apr 2011, 00:53

.......oh

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 00:55

it's ok, we still love you

vega · Post by **vega** » 23 Apr 2011, 00:59

[youtube]yBuMYY-XOMQ[/youtube]

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:24

I remember when those were first posted on Camp Chaos. Those Metallica Napster videos are hilarious.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:25

upon further reflection the subject line ought to read "lars ulrich is a very not good drummer"

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:25

yeah i remember them being new as well... i rofl'd many times

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 23 Apr 2011, 02:16

and yet people still pay to go see them. amazing.

ANGEL OF DESEASE · Post by **ANGEL OF DESEASE** » 23 Apr 2011, 03:17

Lars is a good drummer, but just a bit overrated imo :tvrkey:

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 23 Apr 2011, 04:00

why do some good drummers cite lars as an inspiration/influence?

dont answer that

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 05:05

because what they mean is "i listened to metallica a lot when i was a lad," not "i listened to metallica and was blown away by lars ulrich's incredible technique"

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 23 Apr 2011, 05:40

[youtube]yPg3B3xF-r0[/youtube]

vs.

[youtube]ZDtMaM__lsU[/youtube]

Holocaust · Post by **Holocaust** » 23 Apr 2011, 06:13

[quote name="themicrulah"][youtube]4-PegaXlZFo[/youtube][/quote]

Good god that was horrible.

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 23 Apr 2011, 06:34

[quote name="uni777"] the part where the beat reverses. [/quote]

that was one thing I noticed when I was young - i loved how he did that

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 23 Apr 2011, 07:14

[quote name="themicrulah"][youtube]yPg3B3xF-r0[/youtube]

Now I know why James had an alcohol problem.[/quote]

Santyago · Post by **Santyago** » 23 Apr 2011, 07:55

James Hetfield is the best musician in Metallica, in my opinion.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 23 Apr 2011, 08:19

[quote name="Santyago"]James Hetfield is the best musician in Metallica, in my opinion.[/quote]

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 23 Apr 2011, 15:58

[quote name="pulsar"]
[quote name="themicrulah"][youtube]yPg3B3xF-r0[/youtube]

Now I know why James had an alcohol problem.[/quote][/quote]

hahaha - that One intro

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 23 Apr 2011, 15:58

[quote name="Santyago"]James Hetfield is the best musician in Metallica, in my opinion.[/quote]

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 16:30

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 23 Apr 2011, 16:55

[youtube]4TovqogviVU[/youtube]

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 16:57

you mean a millionaire rock star shops at armani SAY IT AIN'T SO JIMBO

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 23 Apr 2011, 17:01

I love Metallica. I'm going to buy all of their records and kill downloaders.

vega · Post by **vega** » 23 Apr 2011, 17:43

[youtube]f17nTs-bgow[/youtube]

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 23 Apr 2011, 18:49

rhino · Post by **rhino** » 23 Apr 2011, 20:03

lars is annoying