Decibel Magazine July 2011 - MA cover story

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 25 May 2011, 00:48

I checked the newstand today and they didn't have it yet. I would love to read they take on the "new direction/slant". Anyone get this yet ?

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 25 May 2011, 00:51

Someone buy this and scan it

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 25 May 2011, 01:03

I subscribe and should have it anyday now.

Consider it done

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 25 May 2011, 01:11

I was gonna ask for "scans", but I'm on a couple of other forums that don't allow for this sort of thing, hence why I didn't just outright ask for it. But I figured it was clear as day though

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 25 May 2011, 01:12

This thread

zim · Post by **zim** » 25 May 2011, 01:14

[quote name="KevinP"]I was gonna ask for "scans", but I'm on a couple of other forums that don't allow for this sort of thing, hence why I didn't just outright ask for it. But I figured it was clear as day though

[/quote]

forums with rules? NOT HERE

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 25 May 2011, 01:23

Yeah, we're pretty much the Heretic amongst the fora.

Spirits of the Deep Waters · 25 May 2011, 01:32

Is the new terrorizer out yet?

LAVAGOD · Post by **LAVAGOD** » 25 May 2011, 03:58

trey looks burnt out and david looks like wax. is there some bullshit effect on cuz they dont look this bad on the couple pics they took as a whole band

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 25 May 2011, 04:00

[quote name="Maze"]Is the new terrorizer out yet?[/quote]

I got an email saying it was, but have been unable to locate a copy yet

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 25 May 2011, 05:58

Hey Conservative_Heretic, it's been a few hours since I created this thread and we are all still waiting for scans. Let's GO GO GO.

Go attack the mail carrier and drive down to the post office and raid the mail delivery room. Just do what you gotta do already.

Anyone else sick of waiting ?

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 25 May 2011, 06:09

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]I subscribe and should have it anyday now.[/quote]

See the bold. This board knows, I come through with scans fucker

Be patient young Padawan

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 25 May 2011, 06:10

Are we there yet?

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 25 May 2011, 06:13

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]
[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]I subscribe and should have it anyday now.[/quote]

See the bold. This board knows, I come through with scans fucker

Be patient young Padawan[/quote]

"Any day" is unacceptable in my regime

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 25 May 2011, 06:15

tis what it is :luke:

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 25 May 2011, 08:39

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]tis what it is :luke:

[/quote]

Luke needs to fucking post more. Probably busy... off doing seriously epic life living. But his posts are always quality so I demand more.

vega · Post by **vega** » 25 May 2011, 09:27

[quote name="KevinP"]

I checked the newstand today and they didn't have it yet. I would love to read they take on the "new direction/slant". Anyone get this yet ?[/quote]

trey and dave look like the WWF tagteam

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 25 May 2011, 09:28

[quote name="carpet_salesman"]
[quote name="KevinP"]

I checked the newstand today and they didn't have it yet. I would love to read they take on the "new direction/slant". Anyone get this yet ?[/quote]

trey and dave look like the WWF tagteam

[/quote]

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 26 May 2011, 07:46

Ok, have a few people I know who got this in the mail already but are not tech savy enough to do "scans".

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 26 May 2011, 09:29

[quote name="KevinP"]Ok, have a few people I know who got this in the mail already but are not tech savy enough to do "scans".

[/quote]

Those Insane Gods · Post by **Those Insane Gods** » 26 May 2011, 15:19

Scans would be great.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 26 May 2011, 20:29

[quote name="KevinP"]Ok, have a few people I know who got this in the mail already [/quote]

Cool to hear. If my copy is in when I get home I will post if no one else does. Was hoping it would have been in yesterday.

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 26 May 2011, 20:31

Damn you fuckers, I'm tired of waiting

VARG · Post by **VARG** » 27 May 2011, 00:00

Yeah! bring the scan

Aftermath1349 · Post by **Aftermath1349** » 27 May 2011, 00:12

That isn't the Trey I remember.

Seriously, he looks incredibly depressed in all the promo pics. I really want to read an Illud interview with him so I can get an understanding of his current headspace/feelings towards the new material and lyrics.

I think I'll go see if my local bookstore has this yet.

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 27 May 2011, 00:29

[quote name="Aftermath1349"]That isn't the Trey I remember.

Seriously, he looks incredibly depressed in all the promo pics. I really want to read an Illud interview with him so I can get an understanding of his current headspace/feelings towards the new material and lyrics.

I think I'll go see if my local bookstore has this yet.[/quote]

I am honestly dying to hear what he has to say about the new album.

Phantoon · Post by **Phantoon** » 27 May 2011, 00:32

Maybe he's getting himself angry for the J record, and this record was the necessary tool for the job

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 27 May 2011, 00:40

[quote name="Aftermath1349"]Seriously, he looks incredibly depressed in all the promo pics. I really want to read an Illud interview with him so I can get an understanding of his current headspace/feelings towards the new material and lyrics.[/quote]

This. I was thinking it was just me, but I must agree 100%. Maybe his heart and soul are just no longer into this. Hell, is it possible, as cliche as it sounds, he has "grown out of" the music he plays. I get that shit from people all the time "Oh you still listen to heavy metal, you're how old?" like metal was only for kids or some bullshit. Next fucker that says that I just want to put a guitar in their hand and say PLAY SOMETHING BITCH!if it is so goddamned-kiddiefied-muthafucker-pieces-of-ass-shit-from-a-broken-camel-jokie's-mother-stinking-ass childlike.

Fuckers

:die:

Anyway, off my fucking soapbox. Sorry for the rant, I snapped for a moment there, shit!

time now

Humwawa · Post by **Humwawa** » 27 May 2011, 00:52

I read the Terrorizer-interview a couple of days ago... the intro was full of shit. The hard-on bearer just writes how great the first David-era was (this isn't shit of course), but that it all went downwards after he'd left... the albums F-H were bad/worse/worst in his opinion and he just gives the readers the feeling Tucker was just a pass-by. And that David ultimately came to rescue the band... MAN THIS hard-on bearer DOESN'T KNOW SHIT. Trey is the only one that kept this band on its throne!

There were some nice thingies I remembered from the interview though:

- that even Thor was surprised by the new material and that he also would have preferred some more classic death metal-stuff on it

- that Trey nowadays has some mixed feelings about F-H, in the way that some of that material was bigger than the technology and mixing skills he could use. He states that the songs expected more out of what was even human possible to play (and he refers to Pete's drumming for example). That probably explains the combination of real drums and beats on this record

- that they actually had to fight hard with the record company to have "Too Extreme" as the opening track which proves to me SOM is definitely concerned about this record

Aside from that it was mainly David's standard enthusiasm about the new record that filled the interview... but we've all heard that already...

VARG · Post by **VARG** » 27 May 2011, 01:04

Can't wait to read some Trey interviews!

Aftermath1349 · Post by **Aftermath1349** » 27 May 2011, 01:07

Thanks for the Terrorizer recap.

No luck on the new Decibel. I was told they have it but can't put it out till Saturday. Yay for corporations!

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 27 May 2011, 01:19

Even for me, who enjoys what I've heard from the samples, find Too Extreme to be a head scracther of an opening track. I guess Trey probably went with the mentality that it's too typical to put a standard song right after the intro, and doing this throws the listener a curveball.

SoM being a corporation, wanted to go the standard route, set the tone, and generate as much positive press as they could.

Still annoys me that 2 people I know "out of state" have the issue but can't/don't know how to scan.

Aftermath1349 · Post by **Aftermath1349** » 27 May 2011, 01:26

[quote name="KevinP"]Even for me, who enjoys what I've heard from the samples, find Too Extreme to be a head scracther of an opening track. I guess Trey probably went with the mentality that it's too typical to put a standard song right after the intro, and doing this throws the listener a curveball.

SoM being a corporation, wanted to go the standard route, set the tone, and generate as much positive press as they could.

Still annoys me that 2 people I know "out of state" have the issue but can't/don't know how to scan.

[/quote]

Too Extreme being right up front makes sense to me. After the intro it goes straight into the new direction the bands taking, I guess in a "Here. This is what interests us. Now you know" way. Also Too Extreme is likely the most interesting of the electronic inspired songs so putting it up front makes sense. I do actually like the riffing in the beginning of the sample and think it's the closest to an "original" idea I've heard out of all this. Unfortunately the song immediately turns to shit but I think I got my point across.

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » 27 May 2011, 01:31

[quote name="Aftermath1349"]Too Extreme being right up front makes sense to me. After the intro it goes straight into the new direction the bands taking, I guess in a "Here. This is what interests us. Now you know" way. Also Too Extreme is likely the most interesting of the electronic inspired songs so putting it up front makes sense. I do actually like the riffing in the beginning of the sample and think it's the closest to an "original" idea I've heard out of all this. Unfortunately the song immediately turns to shit but I think I got my point across.[/quote]

I agree, the first minute sounded pretty good, then it went a little "soft" for my tastes, then the sample ends. Apparently it's a 7 minute track, so we shall see what the rest holds.

I'm still trying to guess with all the initial BAD reviews it's getting, mainly from the press that is interested in MA to begin with, once the "other" non extreme metal press get their hands on it, will it be a different story

AND do most people even read reviews these days and MA has a large enough of a fanbase that the album will sell well regardless of the fact ?

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 27 May 2011, 01:50

[quote name="KevinP"]Still annoys me that 2 people I know "out of state" have the issue

[/quote]

As a subscriber this pisses me off too damnnit. They send an email a week ago saying the new issue is available, UGH! Hopefully today.

Would love to see a scan of the new Terrorizer article. Hell the only store here carrying it still has the fucking MARCH issue on stands.

The Death Metal issue i had to buy from eBay then posted on here when it arrived. But post I will once these bitches are in hand.

And how the hell does one not know how to use a fucking scanner in 2011? Are they older than my 86 year old grandma, oh wait, she knows how to use a scanner herself so they are just fucking idiots - or lazy asses who don't want to share. Meh

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 27 May 2011, 01:52

[quote name="Humwawa"]There were some nice thingies I remembered from the interview though:

- that even Thor was surprised by the new material and that he also would have preferred some more classic death metal-stuff on it

- that Trey nowadays has some mixed feelings about F-H, in the way that some of that material was bigger than the technology and mixing skills he could use. He states that the songs expected more out of what was even human possible to play (and he refers to Pete's drumming for example). That probably explains the combination of real drums and beats on this record

- that they actually had to fight hard with the record company to have "Too Extreme" as the opening track which proves to me SOM is definitely concerned about this record[/quote]

Wow.

Aftermath1349 · Post by **Aftermath1349** » 27 May 2011, 01:56

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]
[quote name="KevinP"]Still annoys me that 2 people I know "out of state" have the issue

[/quote]

As a subscriber this pisses me off too damnnit. They send an email a week ago saying the new issue is available, UGH! Hopefully today.

Would love to see a scan of the new Terrorizer article. Hell the only store here carrying it still has the fucking MARCH issue on stands.

The Death Metal issue i had to buy from eBay then posted when on here when it arrived. But post I will once these bitches are in hand.

And how the hell does one not know how to use a fucking scanner in 2011? Are they older than my 86 year old grandma, oh wait, she know show to use a scanner herself so they are just fucking idiots - or lazy asses who don't want to share. Meh[/quote]

I was about to ask "do you live in Atlanta?" and then saw your location lol. I guess Terrorizer and the South don't mix cos I've been dealing with months late Terrorizers for years.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 27 May 2011, 01:58

[quote name="Aftermath1349"]I was about to ask "do you live in Atlanta?" and then saw your location lol. I guess Terrorizer and the South don't mix cos I've been dealing with months late Terrorizers for years.[/quote]

I have been tempted to just bite the bullet and subscribe because it is the same BS every time I want to get an issue.

VARG · Post by **VARG** » 27 May 2011, 04:07

[quote name="KevinP"]
[quote name="Aftermath1349"]Too Extreme being right up front makes sense to me. After the intro it goes straight into the new direction the bands taking, I guess in a "Here. This is what interests us. Now you know" way. Also Too Extreme is likely the most interesting of the electronic inspired songs so putting it up front makes sense. I do actually like the riffing in the beginning of the sample and think it's the closest to an "original" idea I've heard out of all this. Unfortunately the song immediately turns to shit but I think I got my point across.[/quote]

I agree, the first minute sounded pretty good, then it went a little "soft" for my tastes, then the sample ends. Apparently it's a 7 minute track, so we shall see what the rest holds.

I'm still trying to guess with all the initial BAD reviews it's getting, mainly from the press that is interested in MA to begin with, once the "other" non extreme metal press get their hands on it, will it be a different story

AND do most people even read reviews these days and MA has a large enough of a fanbase that the album will sell well regardless of the fact ?[/quote]

I have high hopes that Too extreme! as a whole is a pretty cool track.

There have already been some positive reviews on the album. It's obviously a matter of taste, but the metal press in general, will tear apart this album. why? cause of the neverending story of metalheads being close minded.

Also, I believe the album being one of the most anticipated metal album in years, will sell fairly ok at least to some degree.

Some people even if they have read negative reviews, will get it just because they're curious to hear it themselves.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 27 May 2011, 04:56

I'm sorry, this is the age of downloading. This album won't sell much unless they can attract a wider audience (which they seem to aim for)

VARG · Post by **VARG** » 27 May 2011, 06:02

Well all artist sell less records now days due to downloads, but still there is a certain number of profit coming from sales that allows record labels to exist still.

What I meant was that considering that and the bad reviews, still there's quite a bit of people out there ranging from die-hard fans like myself and others who don't mind spending a few bucks to get an original copy of an album that's causing quite a bit of talk.

I think there are still plenty of fans out there that want to get something they can actually HOLD and that is not stored in a hard drive.

Olden Polynice · Post by **Olden Polynice** » 27 May 2011, 06:37

[quote name="VARG"]
[quote name="KevinP"]
[quote name="Aftermath1349"]Too Extreme being right up front makes sense to me. After the intro it goes straight into the new direction the bands taking, I guess in a "Here. This is what interests us. Now you know" way. Also Too Extreme is likely the most interesting of the electronic inspired songs so putting it up front makes sense. I do actually like the riffing in the beginning of the sample and think it's the closest to an "original" idea I've heard out of all this. Unfortunately the song immediately turns to shit but I think I got my point across.[/quote]

I agree, the first minute sounded pretty good, then it went a little "soft" for my tastes, then the sample ends. Apparently it's a 7 minute track, so we shall see what the rest holds.

I'm still trying to guess with all the initial BAD reviews it's getting, mainly from the press that is interested in MA to begin with, once the "other" non extreme metal press get their hands on it, will it be a different story

AND do most people even read reviews these days and MA has a large enough of a fanbase that the album will sell well regardless of the fact ?[/quote]

I have high hopes that Too extreme! as a whole is a pretty cool track.

There have already been some positive reviews on the album. It's obviously a matter of taste, but the metal press in general, will tear apart this album. why? cause of the neverending story of metalheads being close minded.

[/quote]

Bullshit.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 27 May 2011, 06:58

[quote name="DustyVagina"]
[quote name="VARG"]
[quote name="KevinP"]
[quote name="Aftermath1349"]Too Extreme being right up front makes sense to me. After the intro it goes straight into the new direction the bands taking, I guess in a "Here. This is what interests us. Now you know" way. Also Too Extreme is likely the most interesting of the electronic inspired songs so putting it up front makes sense. I do actually like the riffing in the beginning of the sample and think it's the closest to an "original" idea I've heard out of all this. Unfortunately the song immediately turns to shit but I think I got my point across.[/quote]

I agree, the first minute sounded pretty good, then it went a little "soft" for my tastes, then the sample ends. Apparently it's a 7 minute track, so we shall see what the rest holds.

I'm still trying to guess with all the initial BAD reviews it's getting, mainly from the press that is interested in MA to begin with, once the "other" non extreme metal press get their hands on it, will it be a different story

AND do most people even read reviews these days and MA has a large enough of a fanbase that the album will sell well regardless of the fact ?[/quote]

I have high hopes that Too extreme! as a whole is a pretty cool track.

There have already been some positive reviews on the album. It's obviously a matter of taste, but the metal press in general, will tear apart this album. why? cause of the neverending story of metalheads being close minded.

[/quote]

Bullshit.[/quote]

God of Perverse · Post by **God of Perverse** » 27 May 2011, 07:07

[quote name="VARG"]metal press in general, will tear apart this album.[/quote]

Which metal press? Dull writing on internet?

[quote name="VARG"]why? cause of the neverending story of metalheads being close minded.[/quote]

Yes, absolutely. The watchword is ''betrayal"...

Olden Polynice · Post by **Olden Polynice** » 27 May 2011, 07:33

Betrayel?Really???

This is becoming fucking funny.

Aftermath1349 · Post by **Aftermath1349** » 27 May 2011, 08:00

I only have a sec so I won't go on a rant but I'll say this; Metal is very possibly the only genre of music that can incorporate any other style and make it work. It's not because Metal is easily fit into other genres or vice versa. It's because Metalheads are extremely forward-thinking and open minded. Obviously not all are but the proofs in the pudding. And the Metal-Hybrid pudding is as dense and richly layered as you could hope for.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 27 May 2011, 08:39

The "watchphrase" is 'closed|narrow-minded'.

^_____________^ · Post by **^_____________^** » 27 May 2011, 09:11

The watchphrase is "we don't understand why anyone would critiscize something we like so we'll call them elitist and narrow minded"

RitesOfPossession · Post by **RitesOfPossession** » 27 May 2011, 17:53

[quote name="themicrulah"]The watchphrase is "we don't understand why anyone would critiscize something we like so we'll call them elitist and narrow minded"

[/quote]

God of Perverse · Post by **God of Perverse** » 27 May 2011, 18:44

I was clearly referring to reviews (VARG wrote: "metal press in general will tear apart this album"). In a review you can not write 'betrayal': that's ridiculous.

[quote name="DarkSurgeon"]
[quote name="themicrulah"]The watchphrase is "we don't understand why anyone would critiscize something we like so we'll call them elitist and narrow minded"

[/quote][/quote]

No one will call you elitist. How could you be part of an elite, if 80% of people express your own opinion?