First week sales

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 07 Jun 2011, 20:50

This will be interesting to say the least. With all the negative reviews and feedback coupled with already poor album sales in this day and age. At the same time, you have to think that a lot of people will just blind buy this simply because its MA. My guess is somewhere between 5-10k. Probably going to be waaay off though.

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 07 Jun 2011, 21:47

I was wondering the same actually. 5k would be realistic as that's what bands like Cannibal Corpse have done recently.

RitesOfPossession · Post by **RitesOfPossession** » 07 Jun 2011, 21:58

At the ask Earache blog Digby Pearson wrote that he'd heard that 2000 of the wooden boxes had been made and that they had all sold out. I'm not sure what to make of this as that sound like a hell of a lot, especially at over £100 per "copy". If that was the case I wouldn't be surprised if the other editions of the album had also sold really well.

The link: http://askearache.blogspot.com/2011/06/ ... -this.html

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 07 Jun 2011, 22:05

That is a lot wow.

Ninny · Post by **Ninny** » 07 Jun 2011, 22:56

I've changed my mind and I'm buying this

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 08 Jun 2011, 02:34

no one here is curious as to how many copies "I" will sell....right

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 08 Jun 2011, 05:03

I'm very curious!

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 08 Jun 2011, 05:30

This will be the highest number selling album they have released.

Yes, I do beleive this.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 08 Jun 2011, 06:28

[quote name="RitesOfPossession"]At the ask Earache blog Digby Pearson wrote that he'd heard that 2000 of the wooden boxes had been made and that they had all sold out. I'm not sure what to make of this as that sound like a hell of a lot, especially at over £100 per "copy". If that was the case I wouldn't be surprised if the other editions of the album had also sold really well.

The link: http://askearache.blogspot.com/2011/06/ ... -this.html[/quote]

Well..you can still buy the wooden box

http://e-shop.season-of-mist.com/en/ite ... -box/26627

http://shop.relapse.com/store/product.a ... ctID=44012

I predict this album will sell a couple of 100's max. As I consider this an EP; I will buy it when the price drops which I expect to be very soon.

nihilisticgaz · Post by **nihilisticgaz** » 09 Jun 2011, 07:06

I would like to buy it but cant find it anywhere in melbz. Apparently there are issues with the distributor? Fucking lame.

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 09 Jun 2011, 07:31

my best buy probably has 20 copies. I should check hot topic for the lulz

latem · Post by **latem** » 09 Jun 2011, 17:21

[quote name="nihilisticgaz"]I would like to buy it but cant find it anywhere in melbz. Apparently there are issues with the distributor? Fucking lame.[/quote]

im from melbz and havent received mine yet,hopefully its not broken like the ones in another thread.i would hold off i were you,ill let you know if it arrived in 1 piece.i bought it through SOM ,the postage was $100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ninny · Post by **Ninny** » 09 Jun 2011, 22:44

I have Illud CD in a tin box

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 10 Jun 2011, 04:55

that tin box would probably make a cooler beer can

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 14 Jun 2011, 22:22

I have not seen any numbers yet but I am curious.

Anyone read any numbers yet or is it still too soon before they can be posted?

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 14 Jun 2011, 22:42

they should be out sometime today.

Olden Polynice · Post by **Olden Polynice** » 15 Jun 2011, 07:47

7,000 max

ddrum · Post by **ddrum** » 15 Jun 2011, 19:09

Illud sold around 3,600 copies in the US.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=159442

unholy_ghoul · Post by **unholy_ghoul** » 15 Jun 2011, 20:20

Less than Heretic

Tea · Post by **Tea** » 15 Jun 2011, 20:55

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 15 Jun 2011, 22:05

I knew it wasn't going to be a lot.

Phantoon · Post by **Phantoon** » 16 Jun 2011, 00:22

So how much do you think the negative reviews played a part in the poor sales ?

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 16 Jun 2011, 00:59

wow thats pretty bad

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:04

i dont know that that's actually too bad, considering how much more prevalent downloading is today than it was in even 2003

Mr. P · Post by **Mr. P** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:12

"stroke me, for i wish to orgasm" yes. I would assume it has been downloaded at least 10k times. This could also mean that the band will be touring Europe more often.

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:14

curious what the corpse sales will look like in comparison later this year

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:14

[quote name="Mr. P"]"stroke me, for i wish to orgasm" yes. I would assume it has been downloaded at least 10k times. This could also mean that the band will be touring Europe more often.[/quote]

they do this already though

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:15

yeah you guys and your goddamn lucrative festival circuit. they aint toured the us since like 2004 i think

Mr. P · Post by **Mr. P** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:16

This interview here states that Eviceration sold over 9000 units in first week.

http://www.metalteamuk.net/mar09int/int ... cc2009.htm

Mr. P · Post by **Mr. P** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:18

[quote name="only pieces remain"]
[quote name="Mr. P"]"stroke me, for i wish to orgasm" yes. I would assume it has been downloaded at least 10k times. This could also mean that the band will be touring Europe more often.[/quote]

they do this already though[/quote]

Well they should play a club tour in Finnyland then!!! Nile played 4-5 show club tour here few years back. Neat-o'.

God of Perverse · Post by **God of Perverse** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:23

[quote name="david vincent's taint"]i dont know that that's actually too bad, considering how much more prevalent downloading is today than it was in even 2003[/quote]

Yes, moreover Illud sold thousand copies on preorder.

However Heretic sold 3.800 units...

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 16 Jun 2011, 01:28

i know that i'm saying given that downloading is even more prevalent in 2011, and given that this album has gone through some anus-ripping feedback, selling fewer units last week than heretic did in its first week eight years ago is maybe not that bad. ESPECIALLY considering that that sales figure is in the US & canada, where MA hasn't done a proper tour in fucking forever

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 16 Jun 2011, 02:18

i'm not really shocked at all. a lot of those were probably pre-orders.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 16 Jun 2011, 03:03

I would like to see overall numbers as well, not just US/Canadian ones.

I also think the negative push-back/feedback/reviews has fed directly into this. I know my F.Y.E. here had originally only ordered two copies to have in store on release day, I got one of them, they then ordered 5 more copies - those same ones are STILL sitting in the store shelves. Maybe after the album has been out a full month and they have several more shows they will pick up more sales but at the same time I keep reading about shows that are not selling tickets very well at all since the album was released, but don't know how much of that is hype and how much is bullshit.

I also read between the lines and have come to accept that Morbid Angel's fan base is much smaller than I had ever thought it was. Granted I am basing that mainly from their Facebook page likes. Example: Morbid Angel: 81,000 Belphegor: 140,000 Deicide: 230,000 Cannibal Corpse: 500,000 Slayer: 1,500,000 Pantera: 3,887,000 Slipknot: 8,100,000 maybe this is also what you get when you wait 8 years before releasing a new album. As another way of comparison Hate Eternal has 20,000 likes and sold 1400 copies in the US their first week of sales.

Based on those above numbers 1 out of every 5 MA fans (22.5%) bought the album this past week. That seems pretty impressive in itself

The above was all done very non-scientifically using only my redneck logic and number manipulation

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 16 Jun 2011, 03:04

i didnt know that 3600 into 81000 was 22.5%

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 16 Jun 2011, 03:05

Well I bought a copy too. Just the plain version for 11 euro's:

http://www.cdwow.nl/CD/morbid-angel-ill ... 89#bc=7fe8

Olden Polynice · Post by **Olden Polynice** » 16 Jun 2011, 07:11

So anyone know how many Amazon downloads Nevermore actually had?

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 16 Jun 2011, 07:45

[quote name="mabb_"]So anyone know how many Amazon downloads Nevermore actually had?[/quote]

It sold out of downloads.

M.Bison · Post by **M.Bison** » 16 Jun 2011, 07:54

biospazz · Post by **biospazz** » 17 Jun 2011, 02:44

USA Billboard Top 200: #141

Top New Artists / Heatseekers: #3

Top Current Albums: #127

Independent Current Albums: #24

Current Hard Music Albums: #13

Top Hard Music Albums: #15

Top Current Rock Albums: #48

UK # 37 Top 50 Independent albums

UK #18 Top 40 Rock chart

Danish Album chart #49

Morbid Angel in Dutch Alternative Charts, week 24 #30 (charts entry), 1st week.

German Trend Chart #23

Norway Top 100 #85

http://www.metalunderground.com/news/de ... wsid=69190

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 17 Jun 2011, 02:53

so poor sales in europe as well.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 17 Jun 2011, 04:11

our lord and master wants the TRUTH! Even if our lord and master can't handle it!

Drum Solo · Post by **Drum Solo** » 17 Jun 2011, 20:18

If they are in fact daring and consider themselves artists, why are they still playing the same old set list + the most basic songs off the new album? You'd think they would have figured out how to perform those cutting edge tracks live long before making any tour commitments.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 17 Jun 2011, 20:37

[quote name="Drum Solo"]If they are in fact daring and consider themselves artists, why are they still playing the same old set list + the most basic songs off the new album? You'd think they would have figured out how to perform those cutting edge tracks live long before making any tour commitments.[/quote]

I agree with this. I was expecting once the official release date rolled by they would have started playing most of the songs from IDI.

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 18 Jun 2011, 03:29

[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]

I also read between the lines and have come to accept that Morbid Angel's fan base is much smaller than I had ever thought it was. Granted I am basing that mainly from their Facebook page likes. Example: Morbid Angel: 81,000 Belphegor: 140,000 Deicide: 230,000 Cannibal Corpse: 500,000 Slayer: 1,500,000 Pantera: 3,887,000 Slipknot: 8,100,000 maybe this is also what you get when you wait 8 years before releasing a new album. As another way of comparison Hate Eternal has 20,000 likes and sold 1400 copies in the US their first week of sales. [/quote]

Just discovered that more people like Morbid Angel's Facebook page than Sasha Grey's by 10,000

** edited to make correct inaccuracies in reporting

Hallucinating dead · Post by **Hallucinating dead** » 18 Jun 2011, 03:33

Not everyone can click Sasha grey's like button

Conservative_Heretic · Post by **Conservative_Heretic** » 18 Jun 2011, 04:16

[quote name="lava Ghoul"]Not everyone can click Sasha grey's like button

[/quote]

A lot of people have clicked that little button though

deckard · Post by **deckard** » 18 Jun 2011, 04:28

is it really surprising that these numbers are seemingly low? cannibal corpse rarely take breaks, tour constantly and have a new album out every few years.

MA hasn't really done much at all since heretic, and its not like they are connected with the fans. (last i checked the website sucked etc)

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 18 Jun 2011, 06:24

No need to check again -- it still sucks.

Svartmetall · Post by **Svartmetall** » 19 Jun 2011, 17:39

From Blabbermouth: "GWAR's new album, "Bloody Pit Of Horror", sold around 2,800 copies in the United States in its first week of release."

Sheesh. With Morbid Angel being rivalled by GWAR for album sales now, I foresee there being some changes before the next album emerges...