"Where the slime live... A song about the jews?"

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[quote name="Uros"]World of shit does have a word untermensch (subhuman), which is audible but cannot be found in the album booklet (there is "waste" instead), but I dunno if it's a song about the Jews.[/quote]



It is very audible indeed, but could also be Nietzsche.



The song was introduced by Steve Tucker like this, which says a lot methinks..



"We live in a world of crap, a world of shit. Let me take you to the promised land..."



It is stupid that a band that is into burning dogma's and thus into mental liberation, would promote a view with new dogma's and thus another way of enslavement...
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[quote name="Skinfection"]he could just as easily be talking about any other religion, or race of people. he could even be discussing humanity as a whole.[/quote]





yes, this is possible.

Anyway, the jew/israel meaning of some of his lyrics are pretty clear. But probably he absolutely knew this, and we should remember that many metal lyrics and attitude is created for shocking and for let people talks about it. :idea:
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White Nationalists are hilariously incompetent with no science to back up their assertions.
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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]are you seriously a psych student? if that is not a sarcastic comment, it explains a lot.



when i was young and naive, i believed a lot of the garbage i had learned in school, and from tv, the american mass media and hollywood. i am smart enough to question things that are obviously bullshit.i learned that blacks were not at all what i had seen on the fresh prince of bel air and the cosby show. i learned that you couldnt die from smoking one joint. i learned that AIDS is impossible to get unless youre black, gay, or shoot drugs. i learned that the american mass media is not to be trusted. i learned that those who control the media and hollywood control the masses. for proof, you need only turn off your tv, go outside and look around and interact with people.



so how old are you, mortimer? one social rule in america is that at 25 or so, you have to stop listening to heavy metal and start listening to nickelback and creed, and maybe some rap music too. also, whites have been socially programmed for self-hate. have you resisted or embraced this?[/quote]



oh christ, i forgot, you can't mention psych around these people because they view it as a corrupting jew-science. i won't make that mistake again.



so you believe you're smart because you realized you can't believe everything on TV? way to go, champ! it took you a while, but you managed to catch up with the average human being. i know that probably required a lot of effort, but that's something to proud of.



if there's anyone that needs to get out in the world, it's clearly you. seriously, log off stormfront, and actually engage with the world. it's a big, wonderful place where anyone can get AIDS, skepticism doesn't mean you throw everything out the gay man&#39;s telescope, and determining the causes of societal issues require a more thorough examination than 'HOLLYWOOD LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS JEWS'. being reasonable obviously is counterproductive to your paranoid worldview though, so i don't expect you to actually do any of this.



i'm old enough, and i still listen to metal. probably always will. in the real world, people honestly don't give a shit about what you listen to. yes, if you insist on making your taste in music an integral part of your identity, you're probably not going to go very far in life outside the bounds of a dead subculture. this is why most people abandon the notion of being a metalhead by their mid-20s, because like it or not, the image is a bad one associated with dropouts, burnouts, alcoholics, and impotent do-nothings (an image which isn't entirely off-base, i might add). this is not usually an advantageous image to project when you're trying to find a decent job or sane partner.



your notion of american social norms and social learning have little to no foundation in reality. seriously, are you like 17 and have been studying real hard at stormfront and VNN for like six months? your arguments all point toward a lack of interaction and integration with anything resembling reality. if you are any older than adolescence, i seriously feel sorry for you.
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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]are you seriously a psych student? if that is not a sarcastic comment, it explains a lot.



when i was young and naive, i believed a lot of the garbage i had learned in school, and from tv, the american mass media and hollywood. i am smart enough to question things that are obviously bullshit.i learned that blacks were not at all what i had seen on the fresh prince of bel air and the cosby show. i learned that you couldnt die from smoking one joint. i learned that AIDS is impossible to get unless youre black, gay, or shoot drugs. i learned that the american mass media is not to be trusted. i learned that those who control the media and hollywood control the masses. for proof, you need only turn off your tv, go outside and look around and interact with people.



so how old are you, mortimer? one social rule in america is that at 25 or so, you have to stop listening to heavy metal and start listening to nickelback and creed, and maybe some rap music too. also, whites have been socially programmed for self-hate. have you resisted or embraced this?[/quote]



The only attempt at widespread behavioral programming in our culture is the attempt to glorify consumption, objectification and shallow materialism. GE, News Corp, Viacom and the few others in the media monopoly couldn't care less about anything except money. If you were as inoculated against bullshit as you claim to be, then the rhetoric you've been spouting would be as ridiculous to you as it is to me.



My moral center is defined by the principles of social contract theory. What of yours?
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quick question rocknrollcola; do you mind if i ask how you came across this forum?
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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]let my clarify the psych student comment. i didnt imply that it is a jew pseudo-science. i just have just noticed an overwhelming majority of psych students are prone to psychological problems. just like the overwhelming majority of black males are career criminals.



to answer other questions, i occasionally lurk on WN boards but have yet to post anything. i have exposed to reality quite a bit, and judging from your posts, you have not left your lily white suburbs, so i will forgive your ignorance and naivete.



as far as my moral compass, david vincent once alluded to self-preservation and honor as sort of being one in the same;i tend to agree. and when i mean self-preservation, i mean not only of self, but my community, my race and my country. is that such a terrible thing?



ive been posting on the various incarnations of this board intermittently over the years, since necrocito was webmaster. under the names Brandon, AIDS Man, bestialityporn, metallica throws shit on the fire cock, among others.[/quote]



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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]let my clarify the psych student comment. i didnt imply that it is a jew pseudo-science. i just have just noticed an overwhelming majority of psych students are prone to psychological problems. just like the overwhelming majority of black males are career criminals.



to answer other questions, i occasionally lurk on WN boards but have yet to post anything. i have exposed to reality quite a bit, and judging from your posts, you have not left your lily white suburbs, so i will forgive your ignorance and naivete.



as far as my moral compass, david vincent once alluded to self-preservation and honor as sort of being one in the same;i tend to agree. and when i mean self-preservation, i mean not only of self, but my community, my race and my country. is that such a terrible thing?



ive been posting on the various incarnations of this board intermittently over the years, since necrocito was webmaster. under the names Brandon, AIDS Man, bestialityporn, metallica throws shit on the fire cock, among others.[/quote]



oh, it's brandon, that explains a lot then :lol:



a couple of things: it is kind of dumb to go insinuating people have psychological problems when you enjoy horseporn and also passing out horseporn to people on VHS. i've lived in city/urban areas for 10-11 years, so sorry but no ignorance or naivete here.



you're going to have to provide some actual figures to back up your overwhelming majority claim there, buddy
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I am referring to the notion of a so-called pure race being genetically superior to race mixing. The races are all simply minor differences in regional adaptations that occurred over a large span of time to one species. We were all black and African, once upon a time. (anyone have a certain humorous motivational poster related to this on hand?) Genetically speaking, mixing can even be an evolutionary plus, introducing otherwise foreign resistances and advancements. Maintaining a level of racial purity, over a great span of time, has a higher probability of resulting in evolutionary stagnation.
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[quote name="abzu"]I am referring to the notion of a so-called pure race being genetically superior to race mixing. The races are all simply minor differences in regional adaptations that occurred over a large span of time to one species. We were all black and African, once upon a time. (anyone have a certain humorous motivational poster related to this on hand?) Genetically speaking, mixing can even be an evolutionary plus, introducing otherwise foreign resistances and advancements. Maintaining a level of racial purity, over a great span of time, has a higher probability of resulting in evolutionary stagnation.[/quote]



For the win! We see it all the time in nature. Dole and Chiquita try to homogenize bananas, and every couple of decades the gene pool becomes so stagnant that they have to plant a different species. The bananas you eat now are not the ones your parents ate at your age. Consider the Vikings in Greenland. They died off because of a refusal to intermarry and interbreed with the native population. Not only did they fail to acquire the environmental knowledge to survive ("nuture"), they failed to pass on hardier traits from a race acclimated to such a hostile existence to offspring ("nature").
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[quote name="abzu"]I am referring to the notion of a so-called pure race being genetically superior to race mixing. The races are all simply minor differences in regional adaptations that occurred over a large span of time to one species. We were all black and African, once upon a time. (anyone have a certain humorous motivational poster related to this on hand?) Genetically speaking, mixing can even be an evolutionary plus, introducing otherwise foreign resistances and advancements. Maintaining a level of racial purity, over a great span of time, has a higher probability of resulting in evolutionary stagnation.[/quote]



For the win! We see it all the time in nature. Dole and Chiquita try to homogenize bananas, and every couple of decades the gene pool becomes so stagnant that they have to plant a different species. The bananas you eat now are not the ones your parents ate at your age. Consider the Vikings in Greenland. They died off because of a refusal to intermarry and interbreed with the native population. Not only did they fail to acquire the environmental knowledge to survive ("nuture"), they failed to pass on hardier traits from a race acclimated to such a hostile existence to offspring ("nature").[/quote]

Yessir.
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rocknrollcola? :lol:



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[quote name="Uros"]World of shit does have a word untermensch (subhuman), which is audible but cannot be found in the album booklet (there is "waste" instead), but I dunno if it's a song about the Jews.[/quote]



It is very audible indeed, but could also be Nietzsche.



The song was introduced by Steve Tucker like this, which says a lot methinks..



"We live in a world of crap, a world of shit. Let me take you to the promised land..."



It is stupid that a band that is into burning dogma's and thus into mental liberation, would promote a view with new dogma's and thus another way of enslavement...[/quote]

I too think it's meant in Nietzschean, and not in the nazi context. As far as I know, Nietzsche practically "invented" the expression (ubermensch), and the whole concept of super man, and Nazis misinterpreted the term, and put it in use in their own (shitty) way. David does like to provoke, so I think that he wrote the lyrics with whole human race in mind, but used controversial words for shock value.
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Don't forget, when asked about the terms that vincent uses, he had mentioned, "I use words that the enemy would use or call us".



Think about this. For example, "Blessed are the Sick". If this was a self reference, why would a person who believes in personal strength use the term "sick" to describe themselves? Because "sick", within these context, is to denote that type of person who is precisely the opposite of small-mindedness; enthralled to religious thought; self-sacrificing; self ablating: all of those who would call vincent and others of like mindedness such as Nietzsche "sick". So, it's like vincent saying and playing on the semantics of the true enemies by saying "yes, we are 'sick', us free deeping thinking ones!" It is meant to be tongue in cheek. This is all the more reason you find controversial terms in vincents lyrics. He is using the words that infiltrate these small minds, who already find offensiveness in logical thought. He is, as said here, getting a rise out of these enemies. He is using the words that the myopic would use superficially. All of his words are to be read into, not to be taken at surface value. But we free ones, we thinking ones already know this. This comes as natural as breathing for us. And how do we know this? Again,from connecting what he values and what he says away from lyrical content. It's all about ubiqitious content and making the right cerebral connections that lead to a conclusion. There is no guesswork here. There is no interpretation through self bias here. There is either understanding by following the connections or misunderstanding by superficial glance at words that possess two faces.
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You have a tendency to bring quality win, Bob.
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[quote name="Famous Mortimer"]

oh christ, i forgot, you can't mention psych around these people because they view it as a corrupting jew-science. i won't make that mistake again.

[/quote]

FWIW, the physics that gave us an understanding of the atom is pretty much a jew-dominated science as well, we better toss out that photoelectric effect theory. And the theory of energy quanta along with the wave-mechanical model of the atom, both products of part-Jews and race-traitor Jew-sympathizers!



Oh wait, silly me. How could I expect a WN to have any grasp on science/math outside of bogus statistical correlations between crime rates and skin color?
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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]ok, guys. just keep hating yourselves and make excuses for those who have nothing but contempt for you. the will and survival mechanisms of the white man have obviously been broken.[/quote]

Yeah I thought so.



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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]ok, guys. just keep hating yourselves and make excuses for those who have nothing but contempt for you. the will and survival mechanisms of the white man have obviously been broken.[/quote]

:lol: Idiot. I thoroughly love myself! This proves my point. This incompetent moron ignores the science and just resorts to some abstract, baseless accusation of self-loathing. You know, you jackass, that you cannot refute my conclusions with any valid data, so you fall back on an equivalent of, "No you are!" Haha, go play elsewhere, little boy. The grown ups are busy.
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hey brandon, are you still juggling concurrent clinical trials to support your horseporn addiction?
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[quote name="Famous Mortimer"]hey brandon, are you still juggling concurrent clinical trials to support your horseporn addiction?[/quote]



Are you really expecting an answer that shows he's moved up in life even a little? The highpoint of his life is his relationship with Robert Hollis to the amusement of an online audience. That's it.
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of course not, but the serious part of the discussion has clearly run its course and i can't just walk away without saying something!



what was that hollis thing, it sounds really familiar but i can't quite remember it anymore :huh:
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precisely
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i find it funny that someone recent made a new post on that stormfront thread


"world of ****"(the promised land) is also about jews.


that thread hasn't been posted in for about 4 years
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i wonder
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I've always thought that the lyrics are aimed towards the race of dogma.
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I'm more inclined to assume They Breed is about humanity as a whole.



There's plenty of shit in each so-called race and we all tend to excessively breed.
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so, this could be in general a song of misanthropy.....



but I still think the provocation about the Jews...or christians...is clear :grimb:
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[quote name="rocknrollcola"]...does anyone have the altered versions of world of shit and dawn of the angry?[/quote]



What altered versions do you speak of?
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[quote name="Mutilator"]
[quote name="rocknrollcola"]...does anyone have the altered versions of world of shit and dawn of the angry?[/quote]



What altered versions do you speak of?[/quote]

Trey Changed some lyrics when they played the songs live post david...
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[quote name="Skintoxication"]
[quote name="rocknrollcola"]
[quote name="Skinfection"]so youre speaking for him now?[/quote]



what? im pointing out the obvious. is that ok?[/quote]



show some credible sources for this hypothesis, otherwise youre just talking out your ass.[/quote]

I've never met a racist with such things as credible sources.





I think people who flip out about so-called race mixing should pick up a book on biodiversity and its benefits.
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"I want to greet a certain great leader from the past but who's name i won't mention". = CEASAR

[/quote]

I think he would have said Caesar, since he already had a song about him on the album, if that is what he meant.



After reading this thread, that assessment makes sense. I had thought the song was about our social decay in the west.



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I think people who flip out about so-called race mixing should pick up a book on biodiversity and its benefits.[/quote]

Its a little more complex than that.

Biodiversity in terms of humanity makes sense if you assume all humans are equal. Eliminate that assumption, and the whole theory falls apart.
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what the fuck does an assumption of equality have to do with biodiversity
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Indeed, the evolutionary strenght lies in the diversity. Since the strong genes survive, mixing would be the best way to enhance humanity, if that would be the goal.



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[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="Mutilator"]
[quote name="rocknrollcola"]...does anyone have the altered versions of world of shit and dawn of the angry?[/quote]



What altered versions do you speak of?[/quote]

Trey Changed some lyrics when they played the songs live post david...[/quote]





yeah, listen to any steve era live material.



robert, is that really you? if so, very cool![/quote]



Does anybody know which lyrics precisely?



Who is Robert?
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[quote name="TranscendingMusic"]

"I want to greet a certain great leader from the past but who's name i won't mention". = CEASAR

[/quote]

I think he would have said Caesar, since he already had a song about him on the album, if that is what he meant.



After reading this thread, that assessment makes sense. I had thought the song was about our social decay in the west.



[quote name="desolation"]

I think people who flip out about so-called race mixing should pick up a book on biodiversity and its benefits.[/quote]

Its a little more complex than that.

Biodiversity in terms of humanity makes sense if you assume all humans are equal. Eliminate that assumption, and the whole theory falls apart.[/quote]

You never disappoint me in your failure.



Go read a little more about natural selection.
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[quote name="desolation"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="TranscendingMusic"]

"I want to greet a certain great leader from the past but who's name i won't mention". = CEASAR

[/quote]

I think he would have said Caesar, since he already had a song about him on the album, if that is what he meant.



After reading this thread, that assessment makes sense. I had thought the song was about our social decay in the west.



[quote name="desolation"]

I think people who flip out about so-called race mixing should pick up a book on biodiversity and its benefits.[/quote]

Its a little more complex than that.

Biodiversity in terms of humanity makes sense if you assume all humans are equal. Eliminate that assumption, and the whole theory falls apart.[/quote]

You never disappoint me in your failure.



Go read a little more about natural selection.[/quote]

Go read a little more about evolution please.



[quote name="Mutilator"]Indeed, the evolutionary strenght lies in the diversity. Since the strong genes survive, mixing would be the best way to enhance humanity, if that would be the goal.[/quote]

Mixing genes would create one species, killing diversity.



[quote name="hard-on bearer Incognito"]what the fuck does an assumption of equality have to do with biodiversity[/quote]

The races probably evolved from different sources. To assume African genes are suited for northern weather, and to assume Europeans are designed for Africa are fatal flaws. I believe mixing the races only hurts us.



For example: Race A is prone to disease A. Plague exploits a weakness to individuals with disease A killing all of Race A off. Good thing all of humanity is not Race A.



Not to mention we could also possibly devolve, which it appears we are already in the process of doing.
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as is typically the case with your posts, i don't even know where to begin



we're already one species. i'm not sure where you're getting the idea that we're not, but i am assuming you believe phenotypic variation is a basis for species classification, and that is most assuredly not the case. learn2taxonomy?



your points all sound like you're just conflating biological concepts with social/cultural ones. have you actually studied biology in any capacity? you know, like a college credit course or something.
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[quote name="hard-on bearer Incognito"]as is typically the case with your posts, i don't even know where to begin



we're already one species. i'm not sure where you're getting the idea that we're not, but i am assuming you believe phenotypic variation is a basis for species classification, and that is most assuredly not the case. learn2taxonomy?



your points all sound like you're just conflating biological concepts with social/cultural ones. have you actually studied biology in any capacity? you know, like a college credit course or something.[/quote]

Thank you. As usual I also did not know where to begin. Uber Grim is imbecilic to the point where I do not know whether to just laugh or outright pity him.
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"I want to greet a certain great leader from the past but who's name i won't mention". = CEASAR
I think he would have said Caesar, since he already had a song about him on the album, if that is what he meant.



After reading this thread, that assessment makes sense. I had thought the song was about our social decay in the west.



I think people who flip out about so-called race mixing should pick up a book on biodiversity and its benefits.
Its a little more complex than that.

Biodiversity in terms of humanity makes sense if you assume all humans are equal. Eliminate that assumption, and the whole theory falls apart.




I don't quite think he would have came outright and said "Ceasar". Right off the bat, the artistry in the delivery of such topics become even richer in cryptic form. Especially with philosophy, one of course can use mythology, history or even science fiction to drive a point home. Now what better way to get a rise out of your opponent and additionally tickle your like-minded audience but through elusive rhetoric? Keeping in mind, this was '91 at a time of global awakening in such kind of thinking. And who are the opponents? Those who either take those words at face value and react to the mythology of what's being said while having their own mythical idealogies reinforce their fears and incomprehensions. And of course the other opponent: those who convolute what's being said to fit their own forms of bias or simple conjectures of what they think reality is. Just as I have already stated, for example, taking a song such as the one this topic is based on and inferring such a conclusion without understanding or observing vincent's or the bands passed thoughts, likes, cultural indicators or any vestige that would contradict the assumption. And when looking at Vincent as a whole in all of these things, one would have to laugh to conclude the title of this particularly thread as being the truth. Now of course as with any person, once the more mysterious time period and delivery as run its course, there is the time period of direct expression of the same previous ideas. He even said it himself once in an interview "indeed there is more than one way to skin a c at".




Biodiversity in terms of humanity makes sense if you assume all humans are equal. Eliminate that assumption, and the whole theory falls apart.


Let's say as a general statement that is true i.e. there are smarter, faster and/or stronger people in the world, ok. But becareful to not take on a fallacy in logic. From that said premise, if there is any bias therein to establish that which is desired to be true, then from that one can establish any assumption. For example taking the above statement in the quote "...if all humans are equal", then by that, with a bias, one can mistakenly conclude then: "ok, well if all humans are not equal, then there is a more superior race". Where really, if you wanted to address that general truth while remaining truthful, one would really say then: "if all humans are not equal, then there are more superior individuals." You see what happens there? That's a big difference. And, without assumption in fulfilling an established bias.
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