What do you like/dislike about your country?
- jawn galliano
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biden in most respects is as horrific as any other president. i agree with you that he is terrible. migrants are not living high on the hog at your brother's expense however, most do not and cannot qualify for any real public benefits, and overwhelmingly any public funds spent on that population are all funneled toward the sprawling carceral establishment that rules over them. both are brutally marginalized populations that the state either ignores or actively punishes, and in both cases this is a heinous moral wrong
if you ever find that your ire is being directed toward people with no power, stop and consider why
public services are cut because the capitalists that control the government quite simply don't accept the idea of public services. they do not accept that idea because those services necessitate a variety of taxes which imperil their existing profits, and further, foreclose the opportunity for those very same capitalists to exploit and profit off those populations that public services would assist.
if you ever find that your ire is being directed toward people with no power, stop and consider why
public services are cut because the capitalists that control the government quite simply don't accept the idea of public services. they do not accept that idea because those services necessitate a variety of taxes which imperil their existing profits, and further, foreclose the opportunity for those very same capitalists to exploit and profit off those populations that public services would assist.
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Oh my anger isn’t at migrants its at those in power like Biden who intentionally allow them to be trafficked here. They are fashionable to people in power as potentially easily manipulated voters via amnesty.
I agree they are horrifically exploited and its why I hate the open borders folks. They do not understand the conditions migrants are put through by cartels it is inexcusuble to want this.
I am not sure about them not impacting public services they have a huge cost to most states, california over 1 billion. They take that money from other places because the public has to suffer never those in power.
I agree they are horrifically exploited and its why I hate the open borders folks. They do not understand the conditions migrants are put through by cartels it is inexcusuble to want this.
I am not sure about them not impacting public services they have a huge cost to most states, california over 1 billion. They take that money from other places because the public has to suffer never those in power.
- jawn galliano
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imo it's not so much about 'allowing' so much as creating the conditions which force them to migrate, and the US has been the prime mover in that category throughout the entire postwar era. and all of it irrespective of whichever political party happens to hold sway at any particular moment; they all serve the same class interests.
you can't divorce migratory patterns from foreign policy, which for decades has directly supported the fruital oppression of vast swathes of those populations, up to and including the training, financing and deployment of death squads who happily liquidate anyone who isn't onboard with america's neocolonial designs. this includes not just repressive governments that we sponsored throughout those periods, but also the regional cartels whose dominance curiously happens to dovetail rather conveniently with US policy goals.
if you want to stop the flow of migrants, allow their countries to exercise true self-determination and operate in a way that benefits their citizens rather than transnational capital.
obviously this isn't something that you or i or anyone else here has any real influence to change. but if your area of interest is immigration, that is a necessary condition that must be fulfilled before any substantive change can happen!
you can't divorce migratory patterns from foreign policy, which for decades has directly supported the fruital oppression of vast swathes of those populations, up to and including the training, financing and deployment of death squads who happily liquidate anyone who isn't onboard with america's neocolonial designs. this includes not just repressive governments that we sponsored throughout those periods, but also the regional cartels whose dominance curiously happens to dovetail rather conveniently with US policy goals.
if you want to stop the flow of migrants, allow their countries to exercise true self-determination and operate in a way that benefits their citizens rather than transnational capital.
obviously this isn't something that you or i or anyone else here has any real influence to change. but if your area of interest is immigration, that is a necessary condition that must be fulfilled before any substantive change can happen!
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What do you think of liberals and progressives? Would such a policy work in the USA?

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Is anyone following the German elections? It seems that Germany is choosing the left-wing politics!


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Noyka
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Creating the conditions is another discussion . The way we treated latin america is an entirely different discussion.jawn galliano wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 08:59imo it's not so much about 'allowing' so much as creating the conditions which force them to migrate, and the US has been the prime mover in that category throughout the entire postwar era. and all of it irrespective of whichever political party happens to hold sway at any particular moment; they all serve the same class interests.
you can't divorce migratory patterns from foreign policy, which for decades has directly supported the fruital oppression of vast swathes of those populations, up to and including the training, financing and deployment of death squads who happily liquidate anyone who isn't onboard with america's neocolonial designs. this includes not just repressive governments that we sponsored throughout those periods, but also the regional cartels whose dominance curiously happens to dovetail rather conveniently with US policy goals.
if you want to stop the flow of migrants, allow their countries to exercise true self-determination and operate in a way that benefits their citizens rather than transnational capital.
obviously this isn't something that you or i or anyone else here has any real influence to change. but if your area of interest is immigration, that is a necessary condition that must be fulfilled before any substantive change can happen!
The way we solve it is not allowing working age men and families to leave those countries for ours that hurts their economy as well as stresses ours. I agree we need to stop interfering with other countries and focus on our own.
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What would you like to see change Vamphy?Vahmpy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 01:18Center/right. Technically we don't even have a government right now. Very long complex story.
On some topics I definitely lean right, on other topics definitely left.
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Housing crisis worked on and eventually fixed.Ninny wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 01:06What would you like to see change Vamphy?Vahmpy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 01:18Center/right. Technically we don't even have a government right now. Very long complex story.
On some topics I definitely lean right, on other topics definitely left.
The huge immigrant problem in combination with the housing problem where Dutch citizens are on waiting lists for more than 10 years while refugees get first pick on houses that are completely furnitured. Where they will actually deny things that are left by previous renters (my wife and I just experienced this when we moved earlier this year). So Dutch citizens first.
No Corona passport and QR code nonsense that has no benefit whatsoever to the pandemic. It's only a way to eventually get complete control over what you are allowed to do, where to go and what to eat. The data protection of this QR code and app have not been seriously looked at.
It will cause us to be imprisoned into a digital system that will take away our daily freedom and is in fact directly breaking our constitution. Any real scientific study to the source of the virus (lab leak from Wuhan) are not funded and kept silent. This must change, but this is also a global problem.
I would like to see all soft and harddrugs legalized to finally be able to put a halt to criminal activity, and labratory pollution in our forests. And also to create better drug regulation, quality control and education. Which will enhance the quality of drugs and lower health risks. MDMA, marijuana, psilocybin mushrooms and truffles, etc are all wonderful medicine that can help people with trauma, depression and PTSD a huge deal. Plenty of scientific proof is out there and one institution and university in NL are one of the worlds leading scientists on this, together with MAPS in USA.
I want farmers to be paid fairly to increase animal welfare.
Our environment is very important to the future of mankind and subsidizing roof solarpanels and green roofs should be encouraged. However, big multinational corporations and the army should be held accountable for the worlds largest polution sources. The regular citizen can only do so much. So perhaps less interference from Brussels and the EU. But a "Nexit" is not something I believe in, considering the mess that Great Brittain is in right now.
Dutch Politics must become much more transparent in general. No more behind the scenes bullshit. It's currently one big theater and those few who are trying to fight against it to life the veil, are threatened with "a function elsewhere"....
This is in a nutshell what I want to see change. And its very hard to find a political party with these visions and plans, since they are both right and left. I think SP is the only one that ticks most boxes.
Some PVV, GroenLinks and Forum have some descent things to say but most of it is too extreme.
Perhaps if Pieter Omtzigt starts his own party it might be interesting.
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I don't want that qr code, I've done all that was asked of me and now I'm being checked
It is also divisive.
One big problem is that the reaction is always so slow, only short term interests. The multi cultural idea started failing in the 80s. First calls on global warming were in the 60s/70s and now we want to be carbon neutral in 2050
One big problem is that the reaction is always so slow, only short term interests. The multi cultural idea started failing in the 80s. First calls on global warming were in the 60s/70s and now we want to be carbon neutral in 2050
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Indeed.Ninny wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 02:13I don't want that qr code, I've done all that was asked of me and now I'm being checkedIt is also divisive.
One big problem is that the reaction is always so slow, only short term interests. The multi cultural idea started failing in the 80s. First calls on global warming were in the 60s/70s and now we want to be carbon neutral in 2050![]()