the rittenhouse trial

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 13 Nov 2021, 23:57

what a sham of a trail on this obviously guilty piece of shit. It's looking like he might walk thanks to a sympathetic judge.
I wouldn't be shocked if one of the victims family members pulls a Samuel L Jackson on him if he does get off.

for those that don't know, this asshat traveled from Illinois to Kenosha, Wisconsin last year during the protests (a town he had zero connection to) armed with an AR15 and shot 3 protestors, killing 2 of them. his lawyers have been arguing self defense. the trail has been fucking clown shoes from the get go.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 14 Nov 2021, 00:15

America is so great!

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 14 Nov 2021, 00:15

Goddammit Luke g a y emoticon doesnt work anymore

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 01:26

The judge usn’t the problem its the prosecution

If it was so cut and dry the prosecution wouldn’t be a hot mess is all I’ll say.

I’ve heard multiple contradicting accounts non of us were there we don’t know the truth. It’s easy to get emotional and think we do in high profile cases ive done it too i just give zero fucks about this one.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 01:44

those are some words you chose to type

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 01:51

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 01:44
those are some words you chose to type

I am annoyed all around with the Rittenhouse trial

Prosecution overcharged, him seeming to provoke shit, race being brought in to stir emotions when its white on white, a lot of nonsense.

It’s a sign of our times.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 01:53

kind of like that exact attitude

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 01:53

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 01:53
kind of like that exact attitude

Apathy? Idk

zim · Post by **zim** » 14 Nov 2021, 03:00

dude went out there looking to kill and got exactly what he wanted imo

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 14 Nov 2021, 04:49

if this happened where he lived one could maybe argue he was acting in self defense of himself / others / his property. The fact that he traveled to another city that he had zero connection to is a hell of a motive. He went there with intent to kill. I don’t know if race had anything to do with it, but even if not he’s still guilty as fuck.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 05:11

Mesarthim wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 04:49
if this happened where he lived one could maybe argue he was acting in self defense of himself / others / his property. The fact that he traveled to another city that he had zero connection to is a hell of a motive. He went there with intent to kill. I don’t know if race had anything to do with it, but even if not he’s still guilty as fuck.

I heard he was there to clean up or spmething i dont know. Thsts wht im torn, the location.

Im just anti histrionics in general.

My annoyance isnt towards you or Skinner its towards the media and government per usual.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 05:30

Noyka wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:11

Mesarthim wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 04:49
if this happened where he lived one could maybe argue he was acting in self defense of himself / others / his property. The fact that he traveled to another city that he had zero connection to is a hell of a motive. He went there with intent to kill. I don’t know if race had anything to do with it, but even if not he’s still guilty as fuck.
I heard he was there to clean up or spmething i dont know. Thsts wht im torn, the location.

Im just anti histrionics in general.

My annoyance isnt towards you or Skinner its towards the media and government per usual.

the fact that you consider this trial "usual" and aren't outraged by it

the fact that you "heard he was there to clean up or something"

get fucking shit on already

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 05:39

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:30

Noyka wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:11

Mesarthim wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 04:49
if this happened where he lived one could maybe argue he was acting in self defense of himself / others / his property. The fact that he traveled to another city that he had zero connection to is a hell of a motive. He went there with intent to kill. I don’t know if race had anything to do with it, but even if not he’s still guilty as fuck.
I heard he was there to clean up or spmething i dont know. Thsts wht im torn, the location.

Im just anti histrionics in general.

My annoyance isnt towards you or Skinner its towards the media and government per usual.
the fact that you consider this trial "usual" and aren't outraged by it

the fact that you "heard he was there to clean up or something"

get fucking shit on already

I never said this was a normal trial i said it was highly emotional as with other high profile cases. Ive gotten wrapped up in them before and try not to now.

My annoyance is how people per usual present things and manipulate the public causing division and making it hard to find juries.

I dont know why he was there if i hadnt made that clear i am now. I am saying what i have heard thats all.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 05:46

slugbait wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:28
Clean up what? Bodies of people he shot?

There was apparently evidence if him cleaning grafiti i dont know if true or not doesnt explain wjy he was at the protest with a eeapon.

If the prosecution had gone for manslaughter and inciting a riot iknow there wouldn’t have been as many fuck ups because thats easier to prove here.

He did something wrong just not positive its first degree murder in this instance thats what i mean by overcharged.

Theres a lot of undo anger towards people who dont agree 100% over shitty people creating shitty situations around other shitty people here.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 05:52

slugbait wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:50
He was hanging out with Proud Boys after who were congratulating him on a job well done. The graffiti thing is gaslighting by Republicans to make him not look as bad. Manson played guitar in church, Gacy was a community leader. Doesn't excuse what they did.

I hadnt followed the case if he was hanging with proud boys fuck hom thoroughly

I know being upstanding doesn’t mean shit thats why i wuestion the weapon at a riot.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 05:53

Noyka wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:39

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:30

Noyka wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 05:11

Mesarthim wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 04:49
if this happened where he lived one could maybe argue he was acting in self defense of himself / others / his property. The fact that he traveled to another city that he had zero connection to is a hell of a motive. He went there with intent to kill. I don’t know if race had anything to do with it, but even if not he’s still guilty as fuck.
I heard he was there to clean up or spmething i dont know. Thsts wht im torn, the location.

Im just anti histrionics in general.

My annoyance isnt towards you or Skinner its towards the media and government per usual.
the fact that you consider this trial "usual" and aren't outraged by it

the fact that you "heard he was there to clean up or something"

get fucking shit on already
I never said this was a normal trial i said it was highly emotional as with other high profile cases. Ive gotten wrapped up in them before and try not to now.

My annoyance is how people per usual present things and manipulate the public causing division and making it hard to find juries.

I dont know why he was there if i hadnt made that clear i am now. I am saying what i have heard thats all.

your annoyance is directed at "the media and government per usual"

the government conducts trials

but you're also annoyed with the media and now "people per usual" presenting "things"

things like how he was "there to clean up or something"

this kid is a fascist and he went to kenosha hoping to kill people. that's neither obscure information nor debatable

i understand it's easier to both-sides this than look into it, but don't act like you're doing anything other than that

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 06:01

Thats all any of us can do woth a case this politicized look at both sides

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 06:20

let's assume there are ever just two sides to a complicated story

when you learn that one of them is the point of view of a fascist, how quickly do you disregard it

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 06:22

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 06:20
let's assume there are ever just two sides to a complicated story

when you learn that one of them is the point of view of a fascist, how quickly do you disregard it

I honestly hadnt heard he was congratulated and actively hing out with/by proud boys. I avoid most media since i can’t take their bullshit.

I kust thought he was a stupid white kid causing shit for who knows why and was treating his case like i would any other trying to hear all sides.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 06:26

if you avoid most media, where are you going to hear all sides

and how much do you still trust your usual sources after tonight's special report mabb news

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 14 Nov 2021, 06:27

I pick two conservative and two very far left

Just means i need a few more maybe all new ones.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 14 Nov 2021, 07:25

two very far left news sources that somehow didn't mention any of the things in this thread

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 14 Nov 2021, 11:13

the killings have effectively been turned into state-sanctioned headhunting of protestors, for which the perpetrator was handsomely rewarded (somewhere around half a mil by my last count though that's quite old).

prosecution and judge are both in the bag for the kid. nothing that anyone can do about it, shit sucks and there's no solution!

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 15 Nov 2021, 00:19

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
14 Nov 2021, 07:25
two very far left news sources that somehow didn't mention any of the things in this thread

I also tuned out all the rittenhouse stuff was more concerned with getting illegally fired for my service dog (happened pre pandemic) the investigation was starting at that time along with pandemic going ons so lots of drama that summer

Its possible shit was said and i didnt see it or hear it august was pique crazy during the pandemic gor my family.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 20 Nov 2021, 00:46

He was found not guilty on all counts.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 20 Nov 2021, 02:14

The positive thing there isn’t more violence as of this moment. That community has been through enough.

droidspawn · Post by **droidspawn** » 20 Nov 2021, 04:07

Noooo, you don’t say he got off?!?!?!?

I thought we had him. A white kid illegally brandishing a weapon of war and killing two people. No sweat, go home dude. Here’s your medal and pat on the back for a job well done!

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 20 Nov 2021, 05:41

What a fucking joke. I just hope this doesn’t inspire others (you know it will)

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 21 Nov 2021, 01:01

important to remember that the kenosha PD facilitated the killings by deliberately kettling the demonstrators into the areas controlled by the rightwing militias

definitely expect to see more of this stuff in future protest movements etc

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 21 Nov 2021, 02:33

However bad things get in the US, I can take satisfaction that it will never get as bad as things are in balochistan. Yea, I've seen worse.

shadowalk · Post by **shadowalk** » 21 Nov 2021, 09:19

Well it looks like America will have a second BLM in the next few years. Oh well, time to brace for more of black-people-charity-related email blasts from HR.

Ninny · Post by **Ninny** » 25 Nov 2021, 03:28

The Arbery trial has a different result

But also looking for confrontation armed and then claiming self defence

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 25 Nov 2021, 05:54

The Aubrey case you cannot claim self defense if you are chasing the victim. That is three racists pieces of shit getting what they deserved for blatantly breaking the law.

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 25 Nov 2021, 06:29

I had no difficulty understanding what you wrote above, unlike your other posts. Congratulations. I think this means something.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 25 Nov 2021, 07:08

Lmao yeah my typing skills suck, i read over what i say believe it or not.

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 25 Nov 2021, 07:10

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 25 Nov 2021, 08:59

Ninny wrote: ↑
25 Nov 2021, 03:28
The Arbery trial has a different result But also looking for confrontation armed and then claiming self defence

I remember seeing the video of that when it was released last year and it pissed me off to no end - they almost got away with it thanks to their connections. They got what they deserved for what was a modern day lynching. I was a little worried the jury would go the other way, especially after the rottenhouse trial, but thankfully not.

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 25 Nov 2021, 20:54

shadowalk wrote: ↑
21 Nov 2021, 09:19
Well it looks like America will have a second BLM in the next few years. Oh well, time to brace for more of black-people-charity-related email blasts from HR.

always strange to see the colonized taking the colonizer’s side

master’s tools, &c

shadowalk · Post by **shadowalk** » 25 Nov 2021, 21:39

I don't think I'm in a position to take any 'side' as I'm not American. Would you care to elaborate?

Oh and yes the email blasts can get annoying. I really don’t need 10 email invites a day for webinars that talk about raising money to get black kids into college and about black inclusion in higher positions in the workplace.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 25 Nov 2021, 22:26

The thing in America very few in power talk about is it isn’t just race its wealth. Classism is a huge problem and ostracizing anyone because of wealth or lack there of creates violence and unrest.

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 26 Nov 2021, 00:54

shadowalk wrote: ↑
25 Nov 2021, 21:39
I don't think I'm in a position to take any 'side' as I'm not American. Would you care to elaborate?

It was a stupid reply to what you wrote. What exactly do you want him to elaborate upon?

agony bagony · Post by **agony bagony** » 26 Nov 2021, 23:51

shadowalk wrote: ↑
25 Nov 2021, 21:39
I don't think I'm in a position to take any 'side' as I'm not American. Would you care to elaborate?

Oh and yes the email blasts can get annoying. I really don’t need 10 email invites a day for webinars that talk about raising money to get black kids into college and about black inclusion in higher positions in the workplace.

despite the philippines' colonial history, your sympathies are not with oppressed people

just curious to observe

shadowalk · Post by **shadowalk** » 27 Nov 2021, 00:18

the dead vote well wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2021, 23:51

shadowalk wrote: ↑
25 Nov 2021, 21:39
I don't think I'm in a position to take any 'side' as I'm not American. Would you care to elaborate?

Oh and yes the email blasts can get annoying. I really don’t need 10 email invites a day for webinars that talk about raising money to get black kids into college and about black inclusion in higher positions in the workplace.
despite the philippines' colonial history, your sympathies are not with oppressed people

just curious to observe

And that's the beauty of diversity for you

deckard · Post by **deckard** » 05 Dec 2021, 07:06

this hard-on bearer is a right little cunt, dont care about your dumbass rights,