elections thread

[agony bagony]

Imagine if Biden wins AZ, Penn, NV, and Georgia. That would be a crushing victory at 306 electoral votes. Would that be a landslide victory though? What qualifies as a landslide?

a landslide would have been the 413-125 split we all thought was the realistic ceiling, plus five or six senate seats and 20 more house seats, plus state legislatures

the closest thing to a landslide in our adult lives was obama in 2008

[Mesarthim]

voter sard (apathy) is ultimately what gets republicans elected. historically whenever there is large voter turn out (such as Obama) it heavily favors democrats - at all levels. this year was really something else though... never expected so many people to still support these shithead republicans - just goes to show how effective propaganda is these days thanks to the internet and cable news.

[Mesarthim]

as of 10:12pm

[agony bagony]

just fucking bananas

[agony bagony]

and there is biden’s lead in georgia

[agony bagony]

and spent fucking zilch in maine where they easily could have flipped the seat. but nope! they don't want power, they'd rather work with Reasonable Republicans™ like susan fuckin' collins who VOTED TO CONFIRM FUCKING KAVANAUGH than actually govern

i was most perplexed by jamie harrison's loss until the maine results came in and then i found an untapped reserve of total fucking rage

there were at least three gimme senate races in this cycle and this was the gimmiest but evidently the democratic party doesn't know how to tie a kavanaugh noose, hang it around someone's neck, and drag that person by it for six months without cease

like, don't adapt all the tactics of the republican party but would it fucking kill you to employ some back alley ethics once in awhile. jesus fucking christ almighty

[agony bagony]

it is hard to overstate how catastrophically bad this election is, even if biden wins and actually takes power

i both agree with this and don't, for the simple reason that the president will be an adult person with empathy and common sense instead of a gigantic child who turns his party's elected officials into the citizens of springfield in the treehouse of horror where bart is a god

yes he's a corporate democrat and no he probably won't get much done and no he probably won't heal any partisan divide blah blah but the mere fact of biden being president means fewer people will die of covid in 2021 than would have if he'd lost. that alone is an improvement too big to ignore and also small enough to overlook, & thus perfect for the current moment

[User]

seems like we are at a turning point right now

nothing bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea has been able to find sticks, judicially. and the pennsylvania line being suggested for the last few weeks even if successful won't adjust the result

looking very good

[agony bagony]

luke the turning point was two days ago, i've been telling you this

[User]

it looks like biden may have won enough states by enough margins to counter the judicial attacks that may actually manage to filter through

but there is still a chance bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea will manage it

[agony bagony]

there are no reasonable judicial attacks to be had

every lawsuit the republicans have filed so far has either been laughed out of court because the shit the suit claimed wasn't happening actually was happening or because the counting in the state was already over. after suing to have republican poll watchers in philadelphia they got humiliated by a judge who got the republicans' lawyer to admit the party already had poll watchers in place. they sued to stop counting in michigan after michigan was done counting. their only "wins" have been to get poll watchers in place in certain districts, which is already something mandated by state law

as stormlet pointed out, bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea himself has an extensive history of filing frivolous lawsuits either to exhaust the resources of the person he's filing against or to forestall the inevitable. in this case, he's not going to bankrupt an entire political party and he can't get the states with outstanding votes to stop counting those votes, there are simply no legal grounds for doing so

nothing that's happening with the extra days it's taking to call a winner is the least bit unusual once you remember that 100 million americans voted early or by absentee ballot, and those votes are almost always counted last in almost every single state. our rickety election system was not meant to operate as quickly as usual under pandemic conditions

all that's happening right now is toddler outrage. and as i have learned over the last few years, while toddler outrage can be maddeningly stressful, the best things to do in the face of it is ignore it, start laughing, or announce that it's time for a nap

[User]

i hope you're right!

[agony bagony]

it's also worth pointing out that bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea's extensive record of frivolous lawsuits contains so many more losses than wins that he should probably be considered a vexatious litigant in every US state and several foreign countries if not lassoed and strung up from the nearest hardwood tree when spotted within ten city blocks of a courthouse

[agony bagony]

i hope you're right!

if i'm wrong i owe you a bottle of sriracha

[jawn galliano]

it is hard to overstate how catastrophically bad this election is, even if biden wins and actually takes power

i both agree with this and don't, for the simple reason that the president will be an adult person with empathy and common sense instead of a gigantic child who turns his party's elected officials into the citizens of springfield in the treehouse of horror where bart is a god

yes he's a corporate democrat and no he probably won't get much done and no he probably won't heal any partisan divide blah blah but the mere fact of biden being president means fewer people will die of covid in 2021 than would have if he'd lost. that alone is an improvement too big to ignore and also small enough to overlook, & thus perfect for the current moment

i guess i don't really know of another way to characterize an election which is close enough that it will take at least a week or more to tease out who actually won it, and where the democrats lost ground in the house and failed to retake the senate. if the only legally allowed opposition party cannot retake power after the events of 2020 and continues to show zero signs of changing course, we are in very deep trouble. will it be an improvement over bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea? sure. but it's at best a temporary pause in the US' trajectory, we are headed for some extremely dark times over the next decade that will make the last four years look quaint by comparison.

[rhino]

He is now leading pa

[agony bagony]

decision desk called the election 20 minutes ago

there is no path back for america's current president in pennsylvania, and biden doesn't need any other state to win. even if arizona flips back and every other current undecided state suddenly and impossibly breaks for bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea it won't matter

now it's just a question of when the networks make their calls

this fucking race is over, biden won

[rhino]

Cant wait for jim Carey to be a regular on SNL now

[agony bagony]

it is hard to overstate how catastrophically bad this election is, even if biden wins and actually takes power

i both agree with this and don't, for the simple reason that the president will be an adult person with empathy and common sense instead of a gigantic child who turns his party's elected officials into the citizens of springfield in the treehouse of horror where bart is a god

yes he's a corporate democrat and no he probably won't get much done and no he probably won't heal any partisan divide blah blah but the mere fact of biden being president means fewer people will die of covid in 2021 than would have if he'd lost. that alone is an improvement too big to ignore and also small enough to overlook, & thus perfect for the current moment

i guess i don't really know of another way to characterize an election which is close enough that it will take at least a week or more to tease out who actually won it, and where the democrats lost ground in the house and failed to retake the senate. if the only legally allowed opposition party cannot retake power after the events of 2020 and continues to show zero signs of changing course, we are in very deep trouble. will it be an improvement over bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea? sure. but it's at best a temporary pause in the US' trajectory, we are headed for some extremely dark times over the next decade that will make the last four years look quaint by comparison.

not necessarily

i agreed with you up until the comma splice in your last sentence

the current and worst president america has ever had lost

there will be ongoing fallout from his supporters, bootlickers, &c

but getting rid of him was the absolute lowest bar to clear for a successful election and now that's done

[agony bagony]

i will also add that while the left and the democratic party can't seem to cohere on any fucking thing and that is a huge and stupid problem, fucking way more people voted for biden than for bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea. even more than voted for clinton in 2016

even after what turned out to have been a horrifically run campaign, at least 4.5 million more people voted for the dude who isn't the worst president of all time than the dude who is

point being, there are more of us than them. a simple fact, but an important one

[Mesarthim]

I for one know that a lot of my coworkers who skew on the younger side of things (and some who just never voted before) voted for the first time this election. so there is that.

[agony bagony]

yeah and statistically a lot of them are proto-fascists

but more aren't

[Mesarthim]

fucking Pennsylvania :::::::::::

[agony bagony]

what a wonky-ass place

it seems like florida with mountains

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

I for one know that a lot of my coworkers who skew on the younger side of things (and some who just never voted before) voted for the first time this election. so there is that.

Aye. When I went and voted the amount of cheering for first time voters was ridiculous.

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

fucking Pennsylvania :::::::::::

Gritty

Flyers ::::::::::

[zim]

[droidspawn]

“Where were we?”

[agony bagony]

shocked the dude had been wearing a mask

[Mesarthim]

[Mesarthim]

the trending gap is getting larger. still some votes left to count. Georgia will be done counting very soon.

[Grudge]

Yea, Biden's got a comfortable lead in Nevada now. It's got to be all over. Biden could be headed towards 306 electoral votes if he keeps AZ.

I am sooooo ready to finally not see T's name on the headlines every...single...day. Him, his daughter Ivanka and all his family can finally go fuck off into the background.

[Mesarthim]

same here - I said to a coworker this: "even if Biden turns out to be a mediocre president - It'll still be better than what we have now. I just want a return to normalcy where there isn't some damn tweet or scandal being talking about EVERY. SINGLE. DAY." I don't know if they came up with it but they replied with "MAKE POLITICS BORING AGAIN". couldn't agree more.

Biden isn't going to fix everything, but he sure as hell can undo some of the damage done.

[User]

but that is also part of the problem, the whole executive order thing

[agony bagony]

correct

he can also appoint cabinet secretaries too liberal for the senate’s shitty taste by making them ‘acting’ secretaries, under which designation they can serve indefinitely. a precedent established by america’s current president

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

It'll be interesting to see if they use any of trumps tactics in this presidency

[jawn galliano]

correct

he can also appoint cabinet secretaries too liberal for the senate’s shitty taste by making them ‘acting’ secretaries, under which designation they can serve indefinitely. a precedent established by america’s current president

sure he can do that, but i doubt he will. he's the Decency President™ after all, which is going to mean rigid adherence to stupid norms even if they impede the ability to effectively govern.

if he does though, i don't imagine it would be for candidates deemed 'too liberal' to pass the senate.

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

So he goes the exact opposite! Too conservative to pass the senate

[rhino]

Its official, biden is president elect


Now I'm ready for a world that doesnt talk about bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea 24 fucking 7

[vO)))id]

[Ninny]

Yus!

[agony bagony]

i told you this shit two days ago mother fuckers

[droidspawn]

Thank fucking god

[agony bagony]

[droidspawn]

My bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea loving cousin is having an epic meltdown.

“It’s Rigged!!!!111”

[zim]

shew

back to ignoring the absolute fuck out of all of this

until next time lads

[vO)))id]

If you think this is now over, you're wrong.

[agony bagony]

the election is over; the fuckery of the right is nowhere near over

[agony bagony]

shew

back to ignoring the absolute fuck out of all of this

until next time lads

this is a child’s answer

[zim]

yeah i know, it was only half joking. i am fully aware of the horror we are facing now and in the future